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1 hour ago, pbrookes said:

Yeah be 18 year ago or so. He also had that spike dog around the same time. That Henry was possessed didn’t bother him if a bitch was in season he would savage them. Did anything come out of him?

I don't remember anything decent coming off him. There was nothing related to henry to breed too either way .  There was a big price tag for a service off him aswell which was f***ing wrong which only inflated his owner's ego henry was too hard for his size he made life hard on himself.

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Question that's been floating around for a long time in the terrier game in Ireland bit like gould Smitty ,what is the Toby  breeding and who bred him because it only in later years I seen dogs that came  off him plus I live along where from where he was worked,now this thread is of great reading in the last few weeks some cracking working dogs on it let keep it going 

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36 minutes ago, False Peds said:

Foxy bought him in scrapyard pbrookes with pd  and me ,he was a red smooth dog ,I think we spoke before you were you there long time ago ???

Yeah I was there it was a roofing yard. I sold him the dog. Was about 2002 I think and joe heffernon took the other dog over to him. Big lad had a Russel off me the same day

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1 hour ago, pbrookes said:

Yeah I was there it was a roofing yard. I sold him the dog. Was about 2002 I think and joe heffernon took the other dog over to him. Big lad had a Russel off me the same day

Ye I bought Russell small world ,long time ago another name Joe hefferan he didn't get mention with the big names he dug with gouldy for years he indroduce  pd and us to Gould and lot s of of good digging lads around leister, notts  ,was at his funeral ,was Henry of Steve Ellis's breeding did you send over a dog called Fred few few years later ???

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