Ireland Fuel Protests

[Lenmcharristar 10,784]

2 minutes ago, Pulser said:

Michael Healy-Rae resigns as Govt 'let the people' down

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Minister of State Michael Healy-Rae has resigned from Government, accusing the coalition of losing touch with the people.

 

Rats fleeing the sinking ship

[chesney 5,811]

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[Halfhound 1,317]

9 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Rats fleeing the sinking ship

The two lads are what they are they are shrewd businessmen who will make a buck off anything not that I agree with IPAS or anything like that but before id call them out as rats id try to remember they are staunch supporters of coursing and hunting and have never shyed away from the public eye and being vocal about it. In a world of c**ts they wouldn’t be the worst two in it just my tuppence worth. I reckon the rumblings in Irish government are being hugely played down at the moment 

[Francie, 3,062]

9 hours ago, Pulser said:

Michael Healy-Rae resigns as Govt 'let the people' down

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Minister of State Michael Healy-Rae has resigned from Government, accusing the coalition of losing touch with the people.

 

Hes the cheek,he has a few ipas centres does he not?

[WILF 53,415]

10 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

The two lads are what they are they are shrewd businessmen who will make a buck off anything not that I agree with IPAS or anything like that but before id call them out as rats id try to remember they are staunch supporters of coursing and hunting and have never shyed away from the public eye and being vocal about it. In a world of c**ts they wouldn’t be the worst two in it just my tuppence worth. I reckon the rumblings in Irish government are being hugely played down at the moment 

Surprisingly enough, I’d take a different view, their “support” of hunting would count for little with me if they were profiting off the genocide of their own people…..as I understand it, you boys were never that fond of land agents kicking people out of their cottages ?……I bet a few of them liked hunting and fishing too…..still took a shilling to hurt their own !

No different to me.

[Halfhound 1,317]

27 minutes ago, WILF said:

Surprisingly enough, I’d take a different view, their “support” of hunting would count for little with me if they were profiting off the genocide of their own people…..as I understand it, you boys were never that fond of land agents kicking people out of their cottages ?……I bet a few of them liked hunting and fishing too…..still took a shilling to hurt their own !

No different to me.

It’s like this to me WILF the numbers of votes those boys get is off the scale. If they stood with the government or not they’d of got the votes they are the surest bet in the country. They chose not too. Think of it whatever way you like but I reckon they did what they thought was right. 

[WILF 53,415]

45 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

It’s like this to me WILF the numbers of votes those boys get is off the scale. If they stood with the government or not they’d of got the votes they are the surest bet in the country. They chose not too. Think of it whatever way you like but I reckon they did what they thought was right. 

Different views of a thing mate, I tend to look at words and actions…..if the actions don’t match the words, chances are, someones pulling a stroke…..that’s just my opinion of course. 

[Halfhound 1,317]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Different views of a thing mate, I tend to look at words and actions…..if the actions don’t match the words, chances are, someones pulling a stroke…..that’s just my opinion of course. 

It’s politics isn’t it WILF everyone is pulling a stroke. You’ve been in business in your life whether it’s selling curtains or nicking lead off a roof there’s people you’ve to deal with who are pulling strokes you just have to learn which ones you learn to deal with or the ones you close the book on. At the moment I’d reckon out of the entire political class in Ireland the Healy Raes are people who do more good than harm. Just my opinion. 

[WILF 53,415]

22 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

It’s politics isn’t it WILF everyone is pulling a stroke. You’ve been in business in your life whether it’s selling curtains or nicking lead off a roof there’s people you’ve to deal with who are pulling strokes you just have to learn which ones you learn to deal with or the ones you close the book on. At the moment I’d reckon out of the entire political class in Ireland the Healy Raes are people who do more good than harm. Just my opinion. 

Fair 

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[WILF 53,415]

Here’s a word, sacrifice……and what people are prepared to sacrifice.

Are they prepared to sacrifice their life style ?, maybe views they have held all their life ?, where they live ?, voting behaviour ?…..what are people prepared to give away to change things ?

Because I would hazard a guess, it’s not much…..

And people only ever tend to look at a single subject in front of their face….they don’t expand their thinking outwards.

So for example, I’m a 100% behind a lad like that Chris Duffy standing up for himself…..BUT…….does he understand that he himself has profited every year as a contractor from a system that has now landed the bad news at his door ?

So, fuel is mostly tax….tax pays the agri subsidy’s……the subsidy’s pay him…..nobody else wanted to get exploited for this tax but he didn’t care because the numbers added up for him…..now that Wolf is at his door !

And everything is like that, we have people continually voting for a system that abuses them and it gets away with because it convinces you things matter more than relationships…..family, community, national relationships.

Theres nothing wrong with profit and the more the merrier, but not if someone had to get exploited to pay for it…..nobody wants to be exploited, be that by a shop keeper or the government.

We used to know this stuff, the fair man was pointed out and got regular customers and the monkey got shunned…….we wouldn’t deal with the monkey…..people could do that on their own, community’s did that.

But now the answer is always invariably more regulation, more control, more exploitation of “other” because someone is always paying for it. 

So my point is, don’t look at just a fuel protest and when you get your couple of pound go home…..re-evaluate your habits, change them…..the trouble with ideological systems that rely on exploiting someone, wether that be the poor c**t seeing £3 extra disappear out of his wage packet in extra National Insurance or government legislation that forces someone to sell productive farm land for a housing estate is that eventually that exploitation lands at your door.

None of the current people are going to change that, they get their living from it…..we have to start reevaluating everything and that starts with us.

Vote for people who are going to get out of your way, out of your life, less regulation means less exploitation because people are basically OK if you leave them to it.

We should all look for the what, why and how in everything…..we have to start giving it some thought because what we are doing is f***ing gruesome and it will catch up to everyone at some point. 
It caught up to truckers and farmers and contractors this week….it caught up with lots of others long ago. 

Edited 37 minutes ago by WILF