Amen Rupert Lowe !

[Halfhound 984]

6 minutes ago, WILF said:

I didn’t tell you not to worry about making sure someone gets a parking ticket mate, I simply said I don’t worry about it ! lol 

Everyone is free to keep believing the same stuff and expecting different outcomes, I don’t have to join in. 
I was very Pro Reform at the outset but as the facts and the landscape change then so do my opinions…..people should try it, it’s great craic ! lol 

I’ve the morals of an alley cat WILF I couldn’t give a toss how anyone makes their few bob if they can sleep at night crack on as far as I’m concerned. But i have got a problem if the man in a position of power such as a policeman or politician or whatever other scenario is able to get away with breaking the same laws he will bang me or you away for. Takes a horrible c**t to live that life no matter what colour they are. Culls

[WILF 52,338]

1 hour ago, Halfhound said:

I’ve the morals of an alley cat WILF I couldn’t give a toss how anyone makes their few bob if they can sleep at night crack on as far as I’m concerned. But i have got a problem if the man in a position of power such as a policeman or politician or whatever other scenario is able to get away with breaking the same laws he will bang me or you away for. Takes a horrible c**t to live that life no matter what colour they are. Culls

We all know the score mate, thems the rules….always have been. 

[Blackmag 6,739]

Listening to farage today and then what happened to lowe and Ruperts response today he was kicked out due to his mass deportion plan on grooming gangs he included there family that knew what was going as well which is a given they did he was raided by armed police at night in his home had his guns took then returned weeks later reform may be a option for now but long term no I don't they are and  I think it will show over time I hope restore keep building and getting the right folk in place for when the time comes 

[chartpolski 29,421]

3 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

Listening to farage today and then what happened to lowe and Ruperts response today he was kicked out due to his mass deportion plan on grooming gangs he included there family that knew what was going as well which is a given they did he was raided by armed police at night in his home had his guns took then returned weeks later reform may be a option for now but long term no I don't they are and  I think it will show over time I hope restore keep building and getting the right folk in place for when the time comes 

It wasn’t just the families of grooming gangs that Lowe wanted to deport, he wants to deport ALL immigrants and their families, even those born here.

That was a step too far for Farage, the “middle ground” voters would, rightly or wrongly, find that abhorrent and would never vote for it.

I think Lowe has some good plans , but comes across, to me, to be politically naive .

Habib said he would let illegal immigrants drown in the channel, not once, but repeated it on GBNews, now, wether you or I agree with it, the vast majority of voters would also find that abhorrent.

Cheers.

[jukel123 10,139]

He's just another over privileged tory type. He led Southampton FC into administration when he was chairman and brought in a rugby World Cup winner to advise his football management team. Lol.

He's a granny farmer which is a disgusting practice imo. Like any business these farms rely on accepting tenders from the lowest bidders so care is inevitably compromised.

He's the kind of guy who would rejoice in returning little boys up chimneys and having man traps in his pheasant pens.

It's easy to talk big and promise the earth when you are in opposition. Different when you are in power. Even if he did return all illegal immigrants, that measure would not address the fact that our standard of living and our public services have fallen way below that of other comparable countries. 

I haven't heard any party categorically state it will bring our water back into public ownership again like 99.9999% of other countries. Other fundamental public services should also be brought back into public ownership and the b*****ds who sold them off, plus the people who filled their pockets at our expense should be imprisoned.

Fat chance.

Reform just  offers more of the same tory policies. If they win  the next election it will be Groundhog day once again.

Edited 2 hours ago by jukel123

[chartpolski 29,421]

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

He's just another over privileged tory type. He led Southampton FC into administration when he was chairman and brought in a rugby World Cup winner to advise his football management team. Lol.

He's a granny farmer which is a disgusting practice imo. Like any business these farms rely on accepting tenders from the lowest bidders so care is inevitably compromised.

He's the kind of guy who would rejoice in returning little boys up chimneys and having man traps in his pheasant pens.

It's easy to talk big and promise the earth when you are in opposition. Different when you are in power. Even if he did return all illegal immigrants, that measure would not address the fact that our standard of living and our public services have fallen way below that of other comparable countries. 

I haven't heard any party categorically state it will bring our water back into public ownership again like 99.9999% of other countries. Other fundamental public services should also be brought back into public ownership and the b*****ds who sold them off, plus the people who filled their pockets at our expense should be imprisoned.

Fat chance.

Reform just  offers more of the same tory policies. If they win  the next election it will be Groundhog day once again.

I hate to sound like Farages and Reforms spokesman on THL, but here I go again

I don’t know if you watched Reforms announcements yesterday, but at the end Farage took questions from EVERy media outlet in the room and gave comprehensive answers to all except FT who asked some inane questions about what schools they all went to, (all privately schooled as it happens), but I digress ; he was asked if his policies about “nationalisation “ were “socialist”; he replied that government ownership, part owernership or over seeing utilities like water and power were not “socialist” , but imperative to the economy and security of the country .

Cheers.

[jukel123 10,139]

21 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I hate to sound like Farages and Reforms spokesman on THL, but here I go again

I don’t know if you watched Reforms announcements yesterday, but at the end Farage took questions from EVERy media outlet in the room and gave comprehensive answers to all except FT who asked some inane questions about what schools they all went to, (all privately schooled as it happens), but I digress ; he was asked if his policies about “nationalisation “ were “socialist”; he replied that government ownership, part owernership or over seeing utilities like water and power were not “socialist” , but imperative to the economy and security of the country .

Cheers.

I stand corrected and hail their progressive thinking at this moment in time.

But I remain skeptical. As I do with all political party statements.

 

[chartpolski 29,421]

4 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

 

But I remain skeptical. As I do with all political party statements.

 

As do I, but I’m ever the optimist

Cheers.

[TRUEBRIT66 2,422]

39 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

He's just another over privileged tory type. He led Southampton FC into administration when he was chairman and brought in a rugby World Cup winner to advise his football management team. Lol.

He's a granny farmer which is a disgusting practice imo. Like any business these farms rely on accepting tenders from the lowest bidders so care is inevitably compromised.

He's the kind of guy who would rejoice in returning little boys up chimneys and having man traps in his pheasant pens.

It's easy to talk big and promise the earth when you are in opposition. Different when you are in power. Even if he did return all illegal immigrants, that measure would not address the fact that our standard of living and our public services have fallen way below that of other comparable countries. 

I haven't heard any party categorically state it will bring our water back into public ownership again like 99.9999% of other countries. Other fundamental public services should also be brought back into public ownership and the b*****ds who sold them off, plus the people who filled their pockets at our expense should be imprisoned.

Fat chance.

Reform just  offers more of the same tory policies. If they win  the next election it will be Groundhog day once again.

So hate everyone in politics then or is British politics just going to be "you can please some of the people some of the time" and endure what's coming regardless of whose in power ?

  

[chartpolski 29,421]

16 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

So hate everyone in politics then or is British politics just going to be "you can please some of the people some of the time" and endure what's coming regardless of whose in power ?

  

As Churchill said; “Democracy isn’t perfect, but it’s the least bad of all the alternatives.”.

Another saying is “Power corrupts, and absolute power absolutely corrupts!”.

There will be wrong’uns in EVERY political party, 

“Benevolent Dictatorship “ sounds good, problem is dictators NEVER stay benevolent for long.

So, I can’t see any alternative to the present system, and I can only vote for a party who’s views most align with mine and hope for the best , but be prepared for the worst

Cheers.

Edited 1 hour ago by chartpolski

[jukel123 10,139]

1 hour ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

So hate everyone in politics then or is British politics just going to be "you can please some of the people some of the time" and endure what's coming regardless of whose in power ?

  

I'm afraid I do hate british politicians mate.

  I remember the fifties and sixties when we were recovering from the war. The country underwent tremendous political and social change, all for the better. Public services were good and wages and conditions were vastly improved.

Since then politicians have become willing gophers and acceptors of bungs from rich lobbying groups.

You should hate then too mate. In one of your posts you stated you had to buy your own Parkinsons  drugs. Outrageous! I checked whether you would have to do that in France or Germany. The answer is no. You wouldn't have to buy them in the nordic countries  or Scotland where I live either.  England has become little America. We even have several tent and van  cities  just like Philadelphia Street, not to mention many seaside towns like Blackpool where life expectancy is decades less than other less deprived areas of the UK.

I've just come back from skippering a boat. It struck me that the fishing industry has become much like the UK as a whole. When I was in my twenties you could make serious money as you were paid a fair proportion of the ships profits. In 1983, I put a 30 grand deposit on a smallholding with only a small 20 year year mortgage. But profit sharing has gone out of the window and most trawlermen are foreigners who are paid pitiful washers. The boat owner pockets the lot these days. Same as the UK industry as a whole. 

The UK is in a bad way imo. I have no faith in the basic decency of any politician.