Amen Rupert Lowe !

[mackem 31,464]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

So what if Farage didn’t report 300 large, how does that impact a girl getting f****d by half a dozen pakis in the back of a cab in Bradford ? 

It was closer to £400k and I don’t have a clue how you segued Pakistanis rape and Bradford into the topic that’s quite a conversation shift.

[NEWKID 30,022]

Its all got a bit Monty Python for me now.. 

"We're the People's front of Judea"

"No we're The Judean People's Front".. lol

 

[Halfhound 981]

53 minutes ago, WILF said:

As I probably don’t need to tell you, some things just make the world go round mate…..if you are suggesting helping your pal avoid red tape to the tune of 50 million and creating a load of work for lads in the process is the same as selling crack on the estate or raping kids in care then you’ve lost it old chap ! 

If you think the people who make the laws of the country should be beyond the law I think you’ve lost the plot. Cutting off your nose to spite your face. 

[mackem 31,464]

15 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

If you think the people who make the laws of the country should be beyond the law I think you’ve lost the plot. Cutting off your nose to spite your face. 

Make the laws-break the laws.

[WILF 52,326]

1 hour ago, mackem said:

It was closer to £400k and I don’t have a clue how you segued Pakistanis rape and Bradford into the topic that’s quite a conversation shift.

I don’t think it is mate because you implied this stuff is important and it isn’t important at all in the greater context of what’s going on in Britain. 

[WILF 52,326]

30 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

If you think the people who make the laws of the country should be beyond the law I think you’ve lost the plot. Cutting off your nose to spite your face. 

It didn’t say beyond the law, I said I didn’t care….just like I don’t care if someone don’t get a parking ticket !

Its baloney compared to the real problems !

And I have to say, an old boy once taught me that cutting off your nose to spite your face is a very healthy thing to do sometimes…..it liberates you mate, I highly recommend it. 

Edited 4 hours ago by WILF

[chartpolski 29,413]

3 hours ago, WILF said:

Agreed

An alternative has to be alternative to be worthy of the name, not the same old people dressed up in a new coat.

How has the “middle ground” been working out so far ?

Personally, it’s my firm belief that wishy, washy half measures won’t fix a situation that’s so dire…..like, I honestly don’t think people grasp the trouble we are in, genetically, culturally, socially, economically….we are in shit so deep you can’t see the sunlight !!

WE ARE DYING OUT !…..WE ARE IN THE END GAME OF A GENOCIDE !

WE CAN NEVER EVER PAY BACK THE MONEY THEY BORROWED TO COMMIT THIS GENOCIDE UPON US ! 
 

It’s as simple as that, do you think centre ground, please everyone, nice polite level headed, status quo stuff fixes that mate ?……I mean do you ? 
 

The fact as it stands is that our grandkids and great grandkids will be living in a majority 3rd world country, working for 3rd world masters to pay back a debt they can never pay back !

Their life will never be their own, ever !

Thats the cold hard fact ! 
Polite don’t fix that, not in a million years !

I think the greens will rinse reform in that by election mate, I genuinely do….maybe then they will see that trying to be all things to all people is a busted flush just like we all know it is.

That said, I think Reform will do brilliant in local council elections, if that I have no doubt. 

Firstly, when I ask “what’s the alternative”, it’s more of a rhetorical question, there is no other alternative other than Reform, in my opinion.

If a better, viable alternative was there, I’d without doubt look into them.

Second, When I say “middle ground”, I mean the voter , not the politicians.

There are vastly more “middle ground “ voters than far left or far right voters Any Party that wants to take power has to win the middle ground, it’s a political and electoral fact.

Labour and Starmer promised to ditch Corbyn’s far left policies in order to win over the middle ground , then when they won , they instantly moved back to the Left !

I think Farage is doing the same, promise the  centre voters that you’re listening to them, get their votes, win the election and then move to his more natural right of centre !

There a saying goes something like “achievable better is preferable to unachievable perfect” That’s how I see Reform; far from perfect…..but far better than the available alternatives,

Ss allways, just my own thoughts and opinions

Cheers.

[chartpolski 29,413]

2 hours ago, mackem said:

Same old same old,rinse and repeat.

 

I watched the announcements this morning but have been out until now. I thought Farage hadn’t decided on a Foreign Secretary , has things changed ? He didn’t mention Zahawi this morning .

Cheers.

[TRUEBRIT66 2,422]

5 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I watched the announcements this morning but have been out until now. I thought Farage hadn’t decided on a Foreign Secretary , has things changed ? He didn’t mention Zahawi this morning .

Cheers.

Hes not even an MP or Zia can that be done?  

[chartpolski 29,413]

38 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Hes not even an MP or Zia can that be done?  

Easy, do what the Tory’s did to make Cameron Foreigh Secretary or what Labour did to make Mandelson Business Secretary………Make them Lords

Cheers.

[mackem 31,464]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

 you implied this stuff is important 

No implication in my post wilf,I threw my post in to show they all have flaws and are as bent as each other,there is no messiah.

 

1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

I watched the announcements this morning but have been out until now. I thought Farage hadn’t decided on a Foreign Secretary , has things changed ? He didn’t mention Zahawi this morning .

Cheers.

No Charts,theres one word in that post "expected",that's Politics UK's forecast sir.

[chartpolski 29,413]

The media and TV are calling these appointments “Shadow Ministers”; they aren’t ……only “ His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition”, in this case, the Tory’s, can appoint Shadow ministers. It’s a paid appointment.

The announcements Farage has made are party spokesmen or women on a particular brief, I.e. Treasury, Home Affairs, Energy, etc, and are not paid appointments, unless Reform pays them out of its own funds.

Sorry to be pedantic, but someone has to do it

Cheers.

[WILF 52,326]

Reform: We want to protect women !

Voters : Brilliant idea

Reform : We have selected a candidate who brings with him valuable experience with women over the years….we will need people like him when we take power.

Voters: Who is it ?

Reform:

 

Voters : Brilliant choice !, no better man for the job !

lol 

[Halfhound 981]

3 hours ago, WILF said:

It didn’t say beyond the law, I said I didn’t care….just like I don’t care if someone don’t get a parking ticket !

Its baloney compared to the real problems !

And I have to say, an old boy once taught me that cutting off your nose to spite your face is a very healthy thing to do sometimes…..it liberates you mate, I highly recommend it. 

You seem to base every opinion thinking that everyone thinks the same as yourself WILF your a gas man. And if anyone doesn’t have exact same view and solutions as you they are nuts. Have you ever thought maybe you’re the one with the issue? What’s that old song oh god ain’t it hard to be humble 

[WILF 52,326]

2 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

You seem to base every opinion thinking that everyone thinks the same as yourself WILF your a gas man. And if anyone doesn’t have exact same view and solutions as you they are nuts. Have you ever thought maybe you’re the one with the issue? What’s that old song oh god ain’t it hard to be humble 

I didn’t tell you not to worry about making sure someone gets a parking ticket mate, I simply said I don’t worry about it ! lol 

Everyone is free to keep believing the same stuff and expecting different outcomes, I don’t have to join in. 
I was very Pro Reform at the outset but as the facts and the landscape change then so do my opinions…..people should try it, it’s great craic ! lol