Reform

[WILF 51,125]

One things for sure, if we think Farage is the British Trump we can think again ! lol 

 

[jukel123 9,798]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

Truss’s idea was sound…..but it was all the same creatures reform are trying to get cosy with that shit themselves and wanted her destroyed !

The markets crashed. That's all we need to know.

The right is on the March through Europe, America and elsewhere. 

All the rightist parties are funded and controlled by elitist, super rich individuals and corporations.

These people get parties elected and they all want something back: the ability to pass laws which will facilitate them making more money and consolidate their power.

We little people will be raped whoever is elected.

[tatsblisters 11,072]

12 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Tice has said he wants public spending to be 35% of GDP. That would mean austerity such as we've never seen.

275 billion pounds of cuts. Where would the axe lie?  NHS? Education? Welfare? Pensions? Farage has already refused to commit to the triple lock for pensions.

 Britain is in a sorry state  after tory austerity. Roads and town centres in never ending decay. But it will be nothing compared to what is to come.

There's talk of Truss joining Reform. She will add some credibility lol.

Some times i really wonder how much worse could it get especially when i walk around my town of Rotherham and see big fat roma slovaks running about on mobility scooters that have probably not paid a penny into the system a system that requires me to work longer to receive a state pension i have paid into all my working life.

[WILF 51,125]

Just now, jukel123 said:

The markets crashed. That's all we need to know.

No, that’s not all we need to know because that willingness to accept the narrative is why we are in such a shit state……crashing the markets is simply a matter of pressing a button !………we need to be smarter and try and think about who pressed it, why ? and who their friends are. 

Just now, jukel123 said:

The right is on the March through Europe, America and elsewhere.

One thing Reform definitely isn’t is “right”, they are centre at best…..

Just now, jukel123 said:

 

All the rightist parties are funded and controlled by elitist, super rich individuals and corporations.

ALL MAIN PARTIES……fixed that for you 

Just now, jukel123 said:

 

These people get parties elected and they all want something back: the ability to pass laws which will facilitate them making more money and consolidate their power.

We little people will be raped whoever is elected.

Agreed 

[chartpolski 28,498]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

There is another alternative, as members ?, supporters ?, potential voters you demand the party restore itself to the original path where by it was putting up candidates who had been thus far pretty ordinary people from all walks of life……but they haven’t done that, they have loudly shunned those type of people having jumped on the PC bandwagon and allowed themselves to be beaten with the same stick everyone else beats themself with.

Vetted to within an inch of their life to make sure they never said an inconvenient word or had an original thought outside the status quo……surely a worldly bloke like you must have even a tiny voice in the back of your head mate that is screaming “same people, same outcomes” ? 

Agreed

As it stands, I think they will do whatever public opinion tells them to do appearing to hold not strong views of their own that they are willing to die on the hill of ? 

I suppose “viable” looks different to everyone mate, I’d just like a bit of honest !….that will do for starters 

“Same people, same outcome”.

As I said, I’m not happy with the intake of defecting Tory’s, but I can see the practicality of it, in them having experience of the Parliamentry Estate and procedures., “Needs must” and that sort of thing.

I think it’s naive to think voters would demand their preferred party, MP, Councillor to listen to them. There are places in the North East that would still vote Labour even if Labour made it a manifesto commitment to murder their first borns, because of the “ me da and granda voted Labour so will I” mentality!

In my opinion, there simply isn’t any other alternative to the LibLabCon establishment than Reform.

Until a viable alternative appears, I’ll be voting Reform, probably more in hope than expectation.

We are going round in circles now mate, so, as so as often happens, we will amicably agree to disagree

Cheers.

[WILF 51,125]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

“Same people, same outcome”.

As I said, I’m not happy with the intake of defecting Tory’s, but I can see the practicality of it, in them having experience of the Parliamentry Estate and procedures., “Needs must” and that sort of thing.

I think it’s naive to think voters would demand their preferred party, MP, Councillor to listen to them. There are places in the North East that would still vote Labour even if Labour made it a manifesto commitment to murder their first borns, because of the “ me da and granda voted Labour so will I” mentality!

In my opinion, there simply isn’t any other alternative to the LibLabCon establishment than Reform.

Until a viable alternative appears, I’ll be voting Reform, probably more in hope than expectation.

We are going round in circles now mate, so, as so as often happens, we will amicably agree to disagree

Cheers.

Of course mate, and as ever I just find it an interesting conversation rather than a crusade to change anyone’s mind. 

[chartpolski 28,498]

6 minutes ago, WILF said:

Of course mate, and as ever I just find it an interesting conversation rather than a crusade to change anyone’s mind. 

The Welsh by-election this week should be interesting, Reform are ahead in the polls and Labour are in third place.

I shall follow the result with my usual nerdish enthusiasm!

Cheers.

 

[WILF 51,125]

3 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

The Welsh by-election this week should be interesting, Reform are ahead in the polls and Labour are in third place.

I shall follow the result with my usual nerdish enthusiasm!

Cheers.

 

Nothing gives me greater pleasure than seeing the party’s we have had thus far getting wiped out…..the confused look on their traitorous, indoctrinated faces is a rare pleasure.

I just try and maintain a healthy skepticism these days……in case you had not  noticed ! lol 

Edited yesterday at 09:48 by WILF

[chartpolski 28,498]

21 minutes ago, WILF said:

Nothing gives me greater pleasure than seeing the party’s we have had thus far getting wiped out…..the confused look on their traitorous, indoctrinated faces is a rare pleasure.

I just try and maintain a healthy skepticism these days……in case you had not  noticed ! lol 

 

Cheers.

[jukel123 9,798]

The world is definitely turning to the right. And there seems to be an excited enthusiasm for flag waving, internment camps and racial hierarchies.

So, shouldn't we be paying Germany  reparation for the damage incurred by allied forces during WW2? After all they were right weren't they?

Just a whimsical thought.

If folks want to froth at the mouth, I may never care.

Edited yesterday at 11:11 by jukel123

[TRUEBRIT66 2,193]

3 hours ago, Bendigo said:

The biggest poll so far is showing reform winning a massive majority.

I'm actually worried they might. The establishment won't let them succeed and the 'markets' would be crashed just to stop them being successful in anything..... leading to another century of lib/lab/con leftwing and globalist government 

Crazy and a indication of where UK politics is when they can get a majority like that without voters even knowing who their local candidate is! Shows how desperate the current situation is, you would think the current parties would be looking at that and saying actually this isn't to hard to sort out. 

[WILF 51,125]

21 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

The world is definitely turning to the right. And there seems to be an appetite for internment camps and racial hierarchies.

So, shouldn't we be paying Germany  reparation for the damage incurred by allied forces during WW2? After all they were right weren't they?

Just a whimsical thought.

If folks want to froth at the mouth, I may never care.

They were right about some things, but in the biggest conflagration in history I guess we just threw the baby out with the bath water…..unless of course you’re NASA, then you just employed them ! lol 

The world is so far left declaring you eat meat is probably “far right” now !

It’s hardly measuring peoples noses in reality is it. 

[WILF 51,125]

16 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Crazy and an indication of where UK politics is when they can get a majority like that without voters even knowing who their local candidate is! Shows how desperate the current situation is, you would think the current parties would be looking at that and saying actually this isn't to hard to sort out. 

Great post that, and I think it shows the mentality of the average voter……you’d think after so many years of utter betrayal there would be more critical thinking but it seems desperation levels are so high any bit of flotsam to cling to in the storm is good enough……tell me what I want to hear and please let me believe you’ll make it all go away seems to be the order of the day ! 
f**k that, I’m doing my level best to never buy into that mindset again having not been innocent and done it myself in the past. 

[jukel123 9,798]

1 hour ago, tatsblisters said:

Some times i really wonder how much worse could it get especially when i walk around my town of Rotherham and see big fat roma slovaks running about on mobility scooters that have probably not paid a penny into the system a system that requires me to work longer to receive a state pension i have paid into all my working life.

I think it could get a lot worse with the figures they are talking about.

For every roma you see on the street, there are a dozen invisible others, living off the fat of the land who contribute nothing .

[Daniel cain 49,467]

2 hours ago, chartpolski said:

 

Cheers.

These are the clowns looking for votes where I live

Lindsey Whittle has been a local councillor/cnut for 50 yrs....and done f**k all to help us locals.. another taking his fill from the trough.the new boy from Reform,and the green party candidate are sex case looking motherfuckers....you wouldn't let any of the 6 past your front door if you had an ounce of sense...I can't even bring myself to even look at the cnuts...let alone listen to what comes out of their mouths I Honestly wish I'd got up,and driven my f***ing motor through the doors,of the workman's hall and set fire to the cnuts

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002kzxt/your-voice-your-vote-caerphilly