Reform

[jukel123 10,211]

This your old man?

https://youtu.be/XAERxf4yYaw?si=tvE9rF9SwCZKqDoh

[WILF 52,474]

4 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I'm too tired mate. I've fought for twenty years. But he's as fresh as ever.

Time for you to take up the cudgel.

Sometimes he's reasonable,even thoughtful. Dare I say it occasionally sensitive.

But then the black mist descends and he reverts to Alf Garnett on crack.

As I have always said, if you come out with something sensible I’ll always agree with you……it’s when you talk bollocks I like to torture you ! lol 

[Halfhound 1,039]

I don’t understand what you mean by there is no minimum wage either WILF and it being a minimum tax can you explain that?

[WILF 52,474]

1 hour ago, Halfhound said:

I don’t understand what you mean by there is no minimum wage either WILF and it being a minimum tax can you explain that?

Work it out…..f**k me, I can’t keep giving you all the answers ! lol 

[WILF 52,474]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

This your old man?

https://youtu.be/XAERxf4yYaw?si=tvE9rF9SwCZKqDoh

I don’t know why everyone  thinks I’m miserable, I go about with a great sense of amusement…..

[Halfhound 1,039]

6 minutes ago, WILF said:

Work it out…..f**k me, I can’t keep giving you all the answers ! lol 

I’m a thick c**t I need some help along the way. I’m just curious because we have a couple of people working here for us and alot of them get cash and a few bob through the bank but anyone coming away with the minimum wage isn’t paying any income tax I’m nearly sure. 

[WILF 52,474]

16 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

I’m a thick c**t I need some help along the way. I’m just curious because we have a couple of people working here for us and alot of them get cash and a few bob through the bank but anyone coming away with the minimum wage isn’t paying any income tax I’m nearly sure. 

It’s a tax on the consumer, they pay for it ! 
It will also have been calculated to give a minimum tax base regardless….
 

Edited yesterday at 21:59 by WILF

[Bakerboy 4,816]

590 welcomed with open arms into the uk on the 1st fine day in weeks

[mackem 31,594]

4 minutes ago, Bakerboy said:

590 welcomed with open arms into the uk on the 1st fine day in weeks

I actually just looked at the government figures a few minutes ago and was thinking maybe the rough weather was keeping them out of fortress Britain,each year the numbers crossing rise,no end in sight.

[Halfhound 1,039]

9 hours ago, WILF said:

It’s a tax on the consumer, they pay for it ! 
It will also have been calculated to give a minimum tax base regardless….
 

Do you really think the likes of supermarkets meat processors and hotels would pay people even half decent money if they didn’t have to? Industries with a long history of huge profits up top and everyone else barely scraping by. If the minimum wage was scrapped I’d imagine immigration would go off the scale and it would be a case of it would be better to sit at home and claim than work. You’ll say it already is the case but it would be even worse. It would be a disaster for everyone people need to be protected. 

[tatsblisters 11,388]

Think the minimum wage was brought in due to the large influx of migrant's from the EU that some companies would use along with employment agencies to undercut wages.

[Bendigo 2,094]

It's a fine balance. I've seen the Mrs trying to make her staff wages work in the care industry. She's might get £30 an hour for a member of staff but by the time she's paid cqc registration, a company to keep her within cqc guidelines that change weekly, insurances, pay for all the office hours she has to do to back up that hour, holiday pay, sick pay, tax, fuel and making sure she can manage when that same member of staff phones in sick with period pains or the complete opposite to say she's pregnant.....then you are automatically down near minimum wage. 

Those with a socialist leaning automatically talk about supermarkets and large companies.....but the power house of a country is always small companies and independent companies. It's from the one man band and small companies that everything else grows. 

I genuinely think it does all reflect back on immigration. Do you want to stop people having to pay £1500 in rent each month.....then stop letting a million people a year in. Want to stop no fault evictions.....stop giving landlords so much money to become HMO's. Want to make sure low paid jobs are are stepping point as people move up the wages scale.....stop importing a million people a year into the country and changing the make up of the work force. 

A nation can only be successful if it aims for sustainability. Any country with a large immigration number can never ever be sustainable in anything from NHS health care to housing to employment. It's amazing that the political left cannot see how immigration affects the very causes they claim to care so much about! 

"Protect the NHS, free for everyone, including half a million Africans...

"Housing rights, including for the million newcomers.....

"Employment rights, let's bring people in who will live ten to a house and eat cheaply from a big bowl of rice then wonder why big corporations love it and pay fck all..... I know let's tax the small local company that employs 3 people and demand loads of workers rights while banning zero hour contracts that would suit all parties...and hope that will sort the massive corporations out. 

Wanting rights and money for everyone is starting at the wrong end of the problem.

[Halfhound 1,039]

1 hour ago, Bendigo said:

It's a fine balance. I've seen the Mrs trying to make her staff wages work in the care industry. She's might get £30 an hour for a member of staff but by the time she's paid cqc registration, a company to keep her within cqc guidelines that change weekly, insurances, pay for all the office hours she has to do to back up that hour, holiday pay, sick pay, tax, fuel and making sure she can manage when that same member of staff phones in sick with period pains or the complete opposite to say she's pregnant.....then you are automatically down near minimum wage. 

Those with a socialist leaning automatically talk about supermarkets and large companies.....but the power house of a country is always small companies and independent companies. It's from the one man band and small companies that everything else grows. 

I genuinely think it does all reflect back on immigration. Do you want to stop people having to pay £1500 in rent each month.....then stop letting a million people a year in. Want to stop no fault evictions.....stop giving landlords so much money to become HMO's. Want to make sure low paid jobs are are stepping point as people move up the wages scale.....stop importing a million people a year into the country and changing the make up of the work force. 

A nation can only be successful if it aims for sustainability. Any country with a large immigration number can never ever be sustainable in anything from NHS health care to housing to employment. It's amazing that the political left cannot see how immigration affects the very causes they claim to care so much about! 

"Protect the NHS, free for everyone, including half a million Africans...

"Housing rights, including for the million newcomers.....

"Employment rights, let's bring people in who will live ten to a house and eat cheaply from a big bowl of rice then wonder why big corporations love it and pay fck all..... I know let's tax the small local company that employs 3 people and demand loads of workers rights while banning zero hour contracts that would suit all parties...and hope that will sort the massive corporations out. 

Wanting rights and money for everyone is starting at the wrong end of the problem.

I agree with everything you’ve said. But if you think the Donald Trumps Rupert lowes Nigel Farage and Jim radcliffes of this world are going to do anything to change that system you’re completely mad. It’s the very system that has made them wealthy while everyone else blames each other for it all. 

[Bendigo 2,094]

1 hour ago, Halfhound said:

I agree with everything you’ve said. But if you think the Donald Trumps Rupert lowes Nigel Farage and Jim radcliffes of this world are going to do anything to change that system you’re completely mad. It’s the very system that has made them wealthy while everyone else blames each other for it all. 

I get what your saying....but I disagree, I think Nigel farages reform is the only chance of change , even if it's just a step further towards that change. 

[Halfhound 1,039]

6 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

I get what your saying....but I disagree, I think Nigel farages reform is the only chance of change , even if it's just a step further towards that change. 

And maybe you’re right who knows. All we have are opinions. I feel sorry for your wife trying to run a business in a sector squeezed so tight when it’s a sector where no expense should be spared. Magnier JP McManus among others are billionaires who pumped money into care homes and the care sector. I’m sure they get their healthy dividends every year without fail while the real back bone of it all such as your wife are left to fight for scraps constantly being told the funds just aren’t there. Hopefully when it’s all said and done and we face the man above your wife will be waved through the door and those fuckers are turned away.  Jukel and myself will be sharing a pint and a chaser in heavens bar while WILF will be sentenced to splitting stones for eternity with his billionaire pals and hitler