Epstein files.

[jukel123 9,605]

5 minutes ago, Francie, said:

There's no defending anyone who went to the island,Eastern was convicted of sex crimes yet they still went an met with him afterwards,who the f**k in the right mind hangs around with a convicted man like that

b*****ds just like him.

[mitre 354]

Someone dodgy their selves who probably enjoys sharing similar desires and networking with people who are like that 

[jukel123 9,605]

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/americas/north-america/us/2025/03/why-donald-trump-embraced-andrew-tate

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cedleq79902o.amp

Both Trump and innocent, pensioner puncher McGregor are convicted of serious, sexual violence.

Nothing to see here folks. It doesn't matter.

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by jukel123

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,400]

3 hours ago, jukel123 said:

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/americas/north-america/us/2025/03/why-donald-trump-embraced-andrew-tate

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cedleq79902o.amp

Both Trump and innocent, pensioner puncher McGregor are convicted of serious, sexual violence.

Nothing to see here folks. It doesn't matter.

 

 

McGregor wasn’t convicted at all buddy , it was a civil case so has no criminal legislation attached 

 

[jukel123 9,605]

4 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

McGregor wasn’t convicted at all buddy , it was a civil case so has no criminal legislation attached 

 

That is correct. Rape is rape.

The surgeon who attended to the woman removed a tampon forced up somewhere near her cervix. She was in enormous pain. He had never seen such savagery in all his years of   years of experience.

Can't believe a sensible bloke like you can defend these c**ts.

 

 

[WILF 50,871]

3 hours ago, jukel123 said:

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/americas/north-america/us/2025/03/why-donald-trump-embraced-andrew-tate

 

The New Statesman ?……seriously ?

This is a publication who had one author make the case for mass 3rd world immigration based on the fact a Somalian fixed his bike !…..I shit you not ! 
 

An article that oozes with bias, wordplay, slights, accusation, inference but very little actual facts ! 
 

It cites at one point being “accused” is as good as being convicted !…..that’s the level we are dealing with in that article for the hard of thinking !

Now, I’ve only even watched one clip of Andrew Tate as he took Piers Morgan to bits in an interview but other than that I know nothing about the bloke…….however, Stiff has recommended I watch him and this coming from a bloke who definitely does NOT have questionable morals ! 
 

f***ing hell, what made you read that article and think it was worth putting up never mind being any kind of evidence of anything mate ?

3 hours ago, jukel123 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cedleq79902o.amp

Both Trump and innocent, pensioner puncher McGregor are convicted of serious, sexual violence.

Nothing to see here folks. It doesn't matter.

 

 

Whatever he is accused of, has been found guilty of in civil court does that make what he is saying not true ?

Does that make it irrelevant ?

What in the hell has one thing got to do with the other ? 
If Hitler said the sun was going to rise in the morning would it be true or untrue ? 

This is how people genuinely think, no wonder the country is in shit street ! lol 

[WILF 50,871]

2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

That is correct. Rape is rape.

The surgeon who attended to the woman removed a tampon forced up somewhere near her cervix. She was in enormous pain. He had never seen such savagery in all his years of   years of experience.

Can't believe a sensible bloke like you can defend these c**ts.

 

 

Have a word with yourself !…..pointing out logic isn’t defending people !

It is what it is, all this approaching everything like an hysterical school girl is a bad look !……too many are at it, it’s what the media live on !

[jukel123 9,605]

12 minutes ago, WILF said:

Have a word with yourself !…..pointing out logic isn’t defending people !

It is what it is, all this approaching everything like an hysterical school girl is a bad look !……too many are at it, it’s what the media live on !

You are defending the indefensible . It's easy to accuse people of hysteria in discussion.

Fair enough,  in your anything goes, man up,  real world , it's OK to rape wee girls, Epstein was only being masturbated, and McGregor and the Tate brothers are wonderful examples of humanity fully deserving of the support of world hero, solver of six wars and general good egg Donald Trump.

You and Stiff need to behave,you've both got partners and daughters.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by jukel123

[WILF 50,871]

Just now, jukel123 said:

You are defending the indefensible . It's easy to accuse people of hysteria in discussion.

Fair enough in your anything goes, man up,  real world it's OK to rape wee girls, Epstein was only being masturbated, and McGregor and the Tate brothers are wonderful examples of humanity fully deserving of the support of world hero, solver of six wars and general good egg Donald Trump.

You and Stiff need to behave,you've both got partners and daughters.

 

Charles Manson said I was going to be one year older at my next birthday but f**k it, I’m not believing him ! 
 

Like this is the level you are conducting a conversation at mate, grow up ! 
 

Why don’t you have a go at reading the words again rather than playing your part in the toxic illogical left wing mentally ill claptrap you are coming out with……come on mate, you’re better than this. 

[scotty12 4,030]

31 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

You are defending the indefensible . It's easy to accuse people of hysteria in discussion.

Fair enough,  in your anything goes, man up,  real world , it's OK to rape wee girls, Epstein was only being masturbated, and McGregor and the Tate brothers are wonderful examples of humanity fully deserving of the support of world hero, solver of six wars and general good egg Donald Trump.

You and Stiff need to behave,you've both got partners and daughters.

 

Have you got pink hair mate ? Lol 

[WILF 50,871]

11 minutes ago, scotty12 said:

Have you got pink hair mate ? Lol 

It’s just silly isn’t it, like let’s apply this silly way of thinking to a post the other day:

Jukel said a bloke at his fishing club had been accused of something…..seeing as they were in the same fishing club and moved in the same social circles should we all now blank Jukel and write him off as “one of them” ?

Should we ignore any valid, logical thing he ever says again ? 

No, of course we shouldn’t because that would be just plain f***ing idiotic ! 
Normal sane people don’t think that way !
 

@jukel123 That is the logic you are using mate !……so come on, don’t be silly huh ? 
It’s the same logic that says everyone at that March in London the other week is a far right nazi and anyone who hangs around with them is also a far right nazi.

 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,400]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

That is correct. Rape is rape.

The surgeon who attended to the woman removed a tampon forced up somewhere near her cervix. She was in enormous pain. He had never seen such savagery in all his years of   years of experience.

Can't believe a sensible bloke like you can defend these c**ts.

 

 

No one is defending him.

mcgregor has been called mcrapist for years on internet forums , there’s much much worse tales , including one of an Irish girl with a broken arm swimming in the med to get off his boat . But that’s all it is without 100%fact . Internet stories 

So what about every single celeb who has ever had a picture taken with Tyson ? Are they automatically rape gang members as well ? 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,400]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

You are defending the indefensible . It's easy to accuse people of hysteria in discussion.

Fair enough,  in your anything goes, man up,  real world , it's OK to rape wee girls, Epstein was only being masturbated, and McGregor and the Tate brothers are wonderful examples of humanity fully deserving of the support of world hero, solver of six wars and general good egg Donald Trump.

You and Stiff need to behave,you've both got partners and daughters.

 

Your normally a very well put together type , I’ll let you re read that statement mate . And have a think of how that reads. 

 

[jukel123 9,605]

Can't be arsed responding like_ for_ like to the insults. We are grown ups. I accept you were perhaps a little perplexed and emotional at the time. I forgive you.

The facts that The New Statesman published about the Tate  brothers can be read elsewhere in right wing publications. If it was untrue the Tate brothers would have sued for libel. Criticising a particular publication, which published undeniable facts, is just the same as blaming a messenger bringing bad news. By your logic you seem to believe articles written in right leaning publications are more likely to  to be true because you generally agree with the sentiments expressed therein.

Can you tell me if you think it is right that Trump is championing the Tate brothers and invites Mcrapist  to the White House?

Do you think young men may be influenced into thinking that their noxious  behaviour is acceptable, even laudable?  Do you think young women and girls would be entitled to think wtf?... society thinks I'm only good  for sex? And it matters little whether that sex is consensual or non  violent?

Can you tell me why you are willing to turn a blind eye to Epstein and his mates but not the Asian grooming gangs? The same type of child , vulnerable and unprotected, were targeted,  gaslighted and trafficked.

Does it matter that the the leader of the free world is an undeniable, personal moral cesspit, with a court judgement against him for forced penetrative sex? 

[pesky1972 5,661]

What even are the ‘Epstein files’? Is it all the police documentation from their investigation into him, Maxwell or both? If so I don’t think these should ever be opened to the public.