The Lucy connelly interview....

[TRUEBRIT66 2,128]

16 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

I’m glad your wife is okay and fine mate I really am 

but one day , and it’s coming , that 80% will be 100. then what? 
 

 

 

14 hours ago, Moocher71 said:

safeguarding 80% 

What about safeguarding English jobs ,

That's exactly why this country is fcuked because we got 80% none British "English"workers in the NHS and most industries are the same.

We have always had immigrant's but we are over run ,wha

 

 

15 hours ago, WILF said:

Likewise, I’m happy to read your wife is ok.

However, your point that “a certain amount make our country better” I completely disagree with…..the reason we have immigrants doctors and nurses is because that is what we have !……I’ll explain and it’s a discussion I have had many times.

Comments like this about foreign born medical staff absolutely don’t take into account that we mended broken legs and treated TB and took out tonsils and patched up soldiers heads long before the Windrush ever sold a cheap return seat in order to fill a boat !

There is one reason those people are there to save your wife (thank god) and that reason is because it meant we didn’t have to soend money training our own.

A government report from god knows when that is pretty hard to find states that at that time when the report was written it had saved 10 billion quid !……this of course went hand in hand with the ideological destruction of the grammar school system and the movement to the absolute shite comprehensive school system….a system designed exactly like America to not give a pathway to greatness for kids who didn’t come from privileged backgrounds but instead to just make sure eveeyine was as shit as each other ! 
 

Take away from the fact these people are doctors, then their presence here is as much of a benefit as any other part of the 3rd world…..which is in fact no benefit at all.

This could all be done by indigenous Doctors and Nurses but we didn’t want them, it’s not worth investing in our own youth just like it hasn’t been worth investing in our own nation…..just like our miners and steel workers and dockers and engineers and manufacturing etc etc etc…..we did away with our own people for the medical profession as well. 
 

When I go to the doctor, I don’t see a single non white Irish doctor and there’s 8 of them in the local practice..same story at the hospital ! 
 

Nobody is doing you any favours because your medical people are foreign. 

Thanks Gents.

But here's the thing, again difficult to debate when I'm on the same page but and here's the BIG BUT your views at this moment aren't palatable to the everyday vast majority of people!

You knock on the door of the  average Joe and tell them they are representing a party that wants to send Ugli Boon the hard working African care worker looking after their mother with dementia back or Dr Ali the Pakistani surgeon who just saved their wife's life and replace them with Sandra the one parent crack head up the road who can hardly get out of bed or Mostin the "a level" left wing uni graduate that's as thick as mince and you will get the door slammed in your face.  

This is where @gnasher16 is right we were all told but we cant go back in time, this is what we are stuck with and that is why Reform appeals and all the rhetoric and chest pumping wont change that.   

What I will add is if things do continue to get worse then attitudes will get more extreme I've already mentioned this. Then I believe Ugli Boon and Dr Ali will be not just sent back but in danger which is as scary a thought as Sandra becoming a care worker or Mostin a trainee surgeon.  

I've also said before I work with a black lad from Zimbabwe who came via the proper route he's a devote Christian who is on indefinite leave to stay, lovely lad with a smashing family. He's becoming a good friend he's hard working, clean & tidy, loyal and a all round nice person, hes actually talking about going to the UTK protest on the 13th. Most of the white English guys we employee are the complete opposite and are genuinely nasty selfish individuals in some cases and have no connection to this country whatsoever. We have spoken about this situation and the way the country is going and he is scared for his future at this time, I will say hand on heart I know if the situation did get worse who I would be standing with.      

 

[WILF 50,318]

6 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

 

 

Thanks Gents.

But here's the thing, again difficult to debate when I'm on the same page but and here's the BIG BUT your views at this moment aren't palatable to the everyday vast majority of people!

 

Yeah, I know ! lol 

In fairness mate, in my experience most people are scared and haven’t taught themselves the command of language to be able to verbalise things in a way that makes them confident to say things out loud.

They are also part of this learned behaviour imho which associates having a perfectly valid and logical opinion with “hate”…..it’s obviously a ludicrous way of thinking but they have been fed it for so long they have actually come to believe it. 
 

What the people selling that lie have not understood is that if you suppress valid logical debate (even if some one don’t have the vocabulary) then eventually, when it gets too much, they just think “f**k it, may as well hate” because it’s an outpouring of all the frustration they have not been able to vent and that’s more dangerous….and in some cases, cruel. 

6 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

You knock on the door of the  average Joe and tell them they are representing a party that wants to send Ugli Boon the hard working African care worker looking after their mother with dementia back or Dr Ali the Pakistani surgeon who just saved their wife's life and replace them with Sandra the one parent crack head up the road who can hardly get out of bed or Mostin the "a level" left wing uni graduate that's as thick as mince and you will get the door slammed in your face.  
 

But again mate, that’s irrelevant if you have trained your own people…..that’s the bit people don’t seem to grasp.

If we trained our own they wouldn’t give two shits about Dr Ali because it wouldn’t matter if he was here or not because it’s covered. 
 

And it wouldn’t be the crack head up the road or a lefty student, it wouldn be be a fully trained doctor or surgeon or care worker that was British instead of African or Asian. 

6 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

This is where @gnasher16 is right we were all told but we cant go back in time, this is what we are stuck with and that is why Reform appeals and all the rhetoric and chest pumping wont change that.   
 

The only proper cure is to go back in time and, imho, we have to be honest about it……and I agree, reform appeals because they have marketed themselves as the soft option.

I watched the press conference with Farage and Yousef….they have committed to sending back “about 600,000”…….thats not mending anything, 600,000 is like putting a plaster in a leg amputation….its better than f**k all but you are still going to bleed to death.

Theres 6 million in London alone !…..possibly more ! 
600,000 won’t make a dent !

Now, it’s better than nothing but we have to be realistic about what and who we are electing and more importantly, why !

The only use Reform have is to break the Labour and Tory party, but we have to realise that’s just the start of the work not the end…..because the reality is, even with those two party’s in tatters we are still in the same position.

A vote for Reform is a vote to destroy the legacy party’s, nothing more and for now that’s good enough….but it’s not job done by a long shot, we have to be honest about that. 

6 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

What I will add is if things do continue to get worse then attitudes will get more extreme I've already mentioned this. Then I believe Ugli Boon and Dr Ali will be not just sent back but in danger which is as scary a thought as Sandra becoming a care worker or Mostin a trainee surgeon.  
 

Absolutely agree, I’ve said it all along……history never lies and Germany in the 30s isn’t just some quirk of fate, it’s happens because the conditions for it too happen are created. 
This situation which the politicians and activists have created over the last decades is dangerous.

6 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

I've also said before I work with a black lad from Zimbabwe who came via the proper route he's a devote Christian who is on indefinite leave to stay, lovely lad with a smashing family. He's becoming a good friend he's hard working, clean & tidy, loyal and a all round nice person, hes actually talking about going to the UTK protest on the 13th. Most of the white English guys we employee are the complete opposite and are genuinely nasty selfish individuals in some cases and have no connection to this country whatsoever. We have spoken about this situation and the way the country is going and he is scared for his future at this time, I will say hand on heart I know if the situation did get worse who I would be standing with.      

 

It’s not their fault, it’s learned behaviour…..they value nothing and associate with nothing because that’s all they have ever been told all their life, they don’t know any different. 
 

Nobody is saying old Marigold isn’t the nicest lad in the world, but he would still be a nice lad back in Zimbabwe and we would be a bit less 3rd world than we was, win/win !

Its never about the individual, it’s always the collective and the effect the collective has.

[WILF 50,318]

Victor Orban is well worth a listen to, a perfect example of logical nationalism.

The man just talks plain, logical, sense.

He pays the EU a million euro a day in fines for not taking immigrants because as he puts it “It’s cheaper than the financial and social cost of taking them” 

Instead of importing he has embarked on promoting indigenous Hungarians having children, a mother never pays tax again after the birth of her second child….as in, ever ! 
 

You can pass on your assets and wealth to your children.

The family is central, the culture of Christian family values is central.

It's a policy of embedding your own culture in your own people in your own land ! 
 

Don’t  believe that this is an impossible dream, it’s being done right now in a country we would have laughed at 30 years ago ! 

[Moocher71 4,157]

2 hours ago, WILF said:

Yeah, I know ! lol 

In fairness mate, in my experience most people are scared and haven’t taught themselves the command of language to be able to verbalise things in a way that makes them confident to say things out loud.

They are also part of this learned behaviour imho which associates having a perfectly valid and logical opinion with “hate”…..it’s obviously a ludicrous way of thinking but they have been fed it for so long they have actually come to believe it. 
 

What the people selling that lie have not understood is that if you suppress valid logical debate (even if some one don’t have the vocabulary) then eventually, when it gets too much, they just think “f**k it, may as well hate” because it’s an outpouring of all the frustration they have not been able to vent and that’s more dangerous….and in some cases, cruel. 

But again mate, that’s irrelevant if you have trained your own people…..that’s the bit people don’t seem to grasp.

If we trained our own they wouldn’t give two shits about Dr Ali because it wouldn’t matter if he was here or not because it’s covered. 
 

And it wouldn’t be the crack head up the road or a lefty student, it wouldn be be a fully trained doctor or surgeon or care worker that was British instead of African or Asian. 

The only proper cure is to go back in time and, imho, we have to be honest about it……and I agree, reform appeals because they have marketed themselves as the soft option.

I watched the press conference with Farage and Yousef….they have committed to sending back “about 600,000”…….thats not mending anything, 600,000 is like putting a plaster in a leg amputation….its better than f**k all but you are still going to bleed to death.

Theres 6 million in London alone !…..possibly more ! 
600,000 won’t make a dent !

Now, it’s better than nothing but we have to be realistic about what and who we are electing and more importantly, why !

The only use Reform have is to break the Labour and Tory party, but we have to realise that’s just the start of the work not the end…..because the reality is, even with those two party’s in tatters we are still in the same position.

A vote for Reform is a vote to destroy the legacy party’s, nothing more and for now that’s good enough….but it’s not job done by a long shot, we have to be honest about that. 

Absolutely agree, I’ve said it all along……history never lies and Germany in the 30s isn’t just some quirk of fate, it’s happens because the conditions for it too happen are created. 
This situation which the politicians and activists have created over the last decades is dangerous.

It’s not their fault, it’s learned behaviour…..they value nothing and associate with nothing because that’s all they have ever been told all their life, they don’t know any different. 
 

Nobody is saying old Marigold isn’t the nicest lad in the world, but he would still be a nice lad back in Zimbabwe and we would be a bit less 3rd world than we was, win/win !

Its never about the individual, it’s always the collective and the effect the collective has.

your right it's not about the individual  some are good people,we just have to many .

Me and the wife was chatting about the marches etc and I said i imagine this is how it probably started in Germany in 1930s .

It's easy for people to say that will never happen but history tells us it can and does happen .