WILF 50,262 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: What's going on in Poland? They not allowing any immigrants past their borders but it's ok for them to invade us . Go to any town on Lincolnshire fens like Boston and preach the pols etc are ok to the English folk that have seen their towns destroyed by the cnuts I used to think exactly the same way mate, but having thought about it I came to this conclusion…..they are only exploiting a nation that has set itself up to be exploited. Meanwhile, their country’s clue on and built a place way better for them to come home to, send their money back to etc etc etc Its a type of colonialism if you think about it, exploit the half wits while we build strong home nations…..we did it ourself for hundreds of years. All these immigrants that have flooded in since Blair must have landed and thought “Look at these soft fuckers, we will have a bit of them” However, I’d rather white Europeans than 3rd world types. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 2,127 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: What you should say is our government should be doing same as polish government when it comes to allowing immigrants in and takes a o stand on it My wife had a operation last week to remove a possible cancerous growth, I would say 80% of the staff we dealt with in the process were foreign (white/black and every colour in between). We could argue all day we want no immigration, should train our own people etc but ultimately we have to accept certain immigration has made this country better, even though that may be a bitter pill to swallow for some. I actually want to see illegal immigration stopped to safeguard the 80% of the doctors, nurses and staff at the hospital that weren't British but helped my wife and want to integrate into society before things get too bad and they are tarred with the same brush. For me the current wave of patriotism isn't just about one thing its about the effect on the indigenous population of the UK of this and previous governments policies. Having to endure becoming second class citizens in our own country, being tax to the eyeballs to pay for ridiculous amounts of legal and illegal migration and the knock on effect that has for housing etc, suffering two tier injustices (Lucy Connelly) and the general fact we are being constantly lied too and ignored. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,141 Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said: My wife had a operation last week to remove a possible cancerous growth, I would say 80% of the staff we dealt with in the process were foreign (white/black and every colour in between). We could argue all day we want no immigration, should train our own people etc but ultimately we have to accept certain immigration has made this country better, even though that may be a bitter pill to swallow for some. I actually want to see illegal immigration stopped to safeguard the 80% of the doctors, nurses and staff at the hospital that weren't British but helped my wife and want to integrate into society before things get too bad and they are tarred with the same brush. For me the current wave of patriotism isn't just about one thing its about the effect on the indigenous population of the UK of this and previous governments policies. Having to endure becoming second class citizens in our own country, being tax to the eyeballs to pay for ridiculous amounts of legal and illegal migration and the knock on effect that has for housing etc, suffering two tier injustices (Lucy Connelly) and the general fact we are being constantly lied too and ignored. I’m glad your wife is okay and fine mate I really am but one day , and it’s coming , that 80% will be 100. then what? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,262 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 46 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said: My wife had a operation last week to remove a possible cancerous growth, I would say 80% of the staff we dealt with in the process were foreign (white/black and every colour in between). We could argue all day we want no immigration, should train our own people etc but ultimately we have to accept certain immigration has made this country better, even though that may be a bitter pill to swallow for some. I actually want to see illegal immigration stopped to safeguard the 80% of the doctors, nurses and staff at the hospital that weren't British but helped my wife and want to integrate into society before things get too bad and they are tarred with the same brush. For me the current wave of patriotism isn't just about one thing its about the effect on the indigenous population of the UK of this and previous governments policies. Having to endure becoming second class citizens in our own country, being tax to the eyeballs to pay for ridiculous amounts of legal and illegal migration and the knock on effect that has for housing etc, suffering two tier injustices (Lucy Connelly) and the general fact we are being constantly lied too and ignored. Likewise, I’m happy to read your wife is ok. However, your point that “a certain amount make our country better” I completely disagree with…..the reason we have immigrants doctors and nurses is because that is what we have !……I’ll explain and it’s a discussion I have had many times. Comments like this about foreign born medical staff absolutely don’t take into account that we mended broken legs and treated TB and took out tonsils and patched up soldiers heads long before the Windrush ever sold a cheap return seat in order to fill a boat ! There is one reason those people are there to save your wife (thank god) and that reason is because it meant we didn’t have to soend money training our own. A government report from god knows when that is pretty hard to find states that at that time when the report was written it had saved 10 billion quid !……this of course went hand in hand with the ideological destruction of the grammar school system and the movement to the absolute shite comprehensive school system….a system designed exactly like America to not give a pathway to greatness for kids who didn’t come from privileged backgrounds but instead to just make sure eveeyine was as shit as each other ! Take away from the fact these people are doctors, then their presence here is as much of a benefit as any other part of the 3rd world…..which is in fact no benefit at all. This could all be done by indigenous Doctors and Nurses but we didn’t want them, it’s not worth investing in our own youth just like it hasn’t been worth investing in our own nation…..just like our miners and steel workers and dockers and engineers and manufacturing etc etc etc…..we did away with our own people for the medical profession as well. When I go to the doctor, I don’t see a single non white Irish doctor and there’s 8 of them in the local practice..same story at the hospital ! Nobody is doing you any favours because your medical people are foreign. Edited 7 hours ago by WILF 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moocher71 4,142 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, WILF said: I used to think exactly the same way mate, but having thought about it I came to this conclusion…..they are only exploiting a nation that has set itself up to be exploited. Meanwhile, their country’s clue on and built a place way better for them to come home to, send their money back to etc etc etc Its a type of colonialism if you think about it, exploit the half wits while we build strong home nations…..we did it ourself for hundreds of years. All these immigrants that have flooded in since Blair must have landed and thought “Look at these soft fuckers, we will have a bit of them” However, I’d rather white Europeans than 3rd world types. Your right and it's our governments that allowed them in to take advantage of are once great country. I remember watching the news when the Berlin wall came down and my dad saying "they will migrate like rats " and he wasn't wrong. Of course I'd rather have Europeans than what's turning up on boats just not in the numbers they have allowed in . I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moocher71 4,142 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 52 minutes ago, WILF said: Likewise, I’m happy to read your wife is ok. However, your point that “a certain amount make our country better” I completely disagree with…..the reason we have immigrants doctors and nurses is because that is what we have !……I’ll explain and it’s a discussion I have had many times. Comments like this about foreign born medical staff absolutely don’t take into account that we mended broken legs and treated TB and took out tonsils and patched up soldiers heads long before the Windrush ever sold a cheap return seat in order to fill a boat ! There is one reason those people are there to save your wife (thank god) and that reason is because it meant we didn’t have to soend money training our own. A government report from god knows when that is pretty hard to find states that at that time when the report was written it had saved 10 billion quid !……this of course went hand in hand with the ideological destruction of the grammar school system and the movement to the absolute shite comprehensive school system….a system designed exactly like America to not give a pathway to greatness for kids who didn’t come from privileged backgrounds but instead to just make sure eveeyine was as shit as each other ! Take away from the fact these people are doctors, then their presence here is as much of a benefit as any other part of the 3rd world…..which is in fact no benefit at all. This could all be done by indigenous Doctors and Nurses but we didn’t want them, it’s not worth investing in our own youth just like it hasn’t been worth investing in our own nation…..just like our miners and steel workers and dockers and engineers and manufacturing etc etc etc…..we did away with our own people for the medical profession as well. When I go to the doctor, I don’t see a single non white Irish doctor and there’s 8 of them in the local practice..same story at the hospital ! Nobody is doing you any favours because your medical people are foreign. Our once great country is fcuked They want us to have nothing and be happy Edited 6 hours ago by Moocher71 . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moocher71 4,142 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, TRUEBRIT66 said: My wife had a operation last week to remove a possible cancerous growth, I would say 80% of the staff we dealt with in the process were foreign (white/black and every colour in between). We could argue all day we want no immigration, should train our own people etc but ultimately we have to accept certain immigration has made this country better, even though that may be a bitter pill to swallow for some. I actually want to see illegal immigration stopped to safeguard the 80% of the doctors, nurses and staff at the hospital that weren't British but helped my wife and want to integrate into society before things get too bad and they are tarred with the same brush. For me the current wave of patriotism isn't just about one thing its about the effect on the indigenous population of the UK of this and previous governments policies. Having to endure becoming second class citizens in our own country, being tax to the eyeballs to pay for ridiculous amounts of legal and illegal migration and the knock on effect that has for housing etc, suffering two tier injustices (Lucy Connelly) and the general fact we are being constantly lied too and ignored. safeguarding 80% What about safeguarding English jobs , That's exactly why this country is fcuked because we got 80% none British "English"workers in the NHS and most industries are the same. We have always had immigrant's but we are over run ,wha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,262 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: safeguarding 80% What about safeguarding English jobs , That's exactly why this country is fcuked because we got 80% none British "English"workers in the NHS and most industries are the same. We have always had immigrant's but we are over run ,wha We have always had European immigrants……that’s the important bit mate. We haven’t always had 3rd world immigrants Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 803 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 25 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: safeguarding 80% What about safeguarding English jobs , That's exactly why this country is fcuked because we got 80% none British "English"workers in the NHS and most industries are the same. We have always had immigrant's but we are over run ,wha Don't hate the player, hate the game. If Brits want to emigrate and be doctors and nurses abroad then that's their choice. I can imagine the outcry now if Labour said they were going to increase our taxes so we can try and attract our doctors and nurses to stay. Edited 6 hours ago by Seagull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,634 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Seagull said: Don't hate the player, hate the game. If Brits want to emigrate and be doctors and nurses abroad then that's their choice. I can imagine the outcry now if Labour said they were going to increase our taxes so we can try and attract our doctors and nurses to stay. They did increase our taxes to pay doctors. How has that worked out ?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moocher71 4,142 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Seagull said: Don't hate the player, hate the game. If Brits want to emigrate and be doctors and nurses abroad then that's their choice. I can imagine the outcry now if Labour said they were going to increase our taxes so we can try and attract our doctors and nurses to stay. not got problem with paying bit more in tax as long as it's for right reasons, UK government can send millions to Ukraine so they can afford to give doctors nurses pay rise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 803 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, mackay said: They did increase our taxes to pay doctors. How has that worked out ?. Well no because it hasn't gone towards paying doctors and nurses comparable wages to places abroad as it? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 803 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Moocher71 said: not got problem with paying bit more in tax as long as it's for right reasons, UK government can send millions to Ukraine so they can afford to give doctors nurses pay rise. Yet they haven't, and they don't get as much as abroad, hence why our doctors choose to emigrate for better pay and conditions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,262 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Seagull said: Well no because it hasn't gone towards paying doctors and nurses comparable wages to places abroad as it? True !……it’s been frittered away in absolute nonsense and a culture of mediocrity! No one is responsible, nothing matters, if you do a shit job from the cleaner to the brain surgeon it’s not because you’re a wanker, it’s because “we are underfunded”…..total f***ing nonsense ! The biggest thing wrong with the NHS is that it’s untouchable and they know it…..hence they can spend £100k a year on a diversity officer while you sit in A&E for 15 hours ! It’s the prefect home for 3rd world types and the reason good people f**k off. Edited 4 hours ago by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Halfhound 258 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago That’s it wether it’s healthcare or education or road maintenance there paper pushers and managers to beat the band and you can tax the whole country at 80% and nothing will improve because these people will gobble it all up. You’ll have a politician preaching about people on the dole getting €200 a week but they see nothing wrong with giving family ‘advisor’ roles where they literally have nothing to do for €70k a year and a pension at 55 until the day they die the only thing that can be done on a personal basis is not contribute well that’s what I tell myself and always have 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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