Do you give to the homeless?

[WILF 49,552]

7 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

One of the very few advantages of age is that you can look back to when things were “different “.

I remember when there were very, very few beggars in Newcastle.

One was a blind veteran, playing an accordion, dressed in a shabby, but clean suit complete with his medals.

The place he stood, outside Fenwicks on Northumberland street is now occupied by drug addicts and Romanian illegal immigrants with their hands out.

I was too young to give to the blind veteran, but my parents did, and had a chat with him, I very much doubt they would fund the lifestyles of his modern counterparts!

Cheers.

Tramps as we used to call them and I don’t remember much negative talk about tramps when I was very young…..I think that changed late 80s and through the 90s, the manner of the people out on the street and the people themselves were different ? 
Dirtier ?……grubbier ?……more “nasty” ? 

Maybe that’s completely understandable given our social decline, if everything is declining then it only figures that those at the very bottom of the pile decline with it ? 

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[gnasher16 31,181]

The whole " giving to charity " thing was looked on once upon a time as a symbol of kindness and caring for the people around you......but now its more a sign of weakness and being exploited in my opinion.

There was a time when myself and a few close pals regularly donated to a local childrens hospice,these were life limited kids in our local community and as supposedly decent local businessmen it was nice to feel like you was doing your bit.

We would stay the odd day mucking about with the kids a few we even took to the footie the odd time,it was a really nice sense of community all the staff were lovely.....they was getting a decent 5 figure sum annually,it all just felt right.

Then some years ago we was told that our donations would have to be pooled into an overall nationwide charity that would then be dispersed to different areas as appropriate....our argument was that as " local "people we want to help other " local " people.......but no,apparently that didnt sit well with all the diversity and multicultural bollocks and they put in writing that they would actually terminate any direct donations from the business.

Charity in the truest sense of the word,is not about helping those less fortunate anymore.....especially if you go with the theory that charity begins at home,its not allowed to anymore !

[mC HULL 15,509]

50 minutes ago, WILF said:

Now, this is a sensitive issue so take my word for it when I say I’m treading as carefully as I can.

Years ago I was way less mellow and understanding than I am now but both schools of thought aside, it always baffled me how people arrive at skag ?

Is there like a general story or have you found each case is unique ?

The bit I never understood was this, certainly our generation was brought up being fully informed about skag so what makes a person go near it ? 
Don’t get me wrong, I was a young man in the 90s and was pretty fond of excess until I met my wife but never that, wouldn’t have touched it with a barge pole and that was a time when I didn’t give two shits about anything…….so I was always pretty harsh in my judgement of skag heads.

I never understood the why or the how because it was the drug equivalent of jumping off a sky scraper, everyone knows it’s going to do them in badly…..we were literally brought up knowing that information.

So I suppose my rather rambling point after your excellent posts is, can you give me any insight into the “why & how” of junkies ? 

who knew what it was wilf early 90s i watched very few knew until to late went from smoking resin to thinking it was the same ? it wasn’t like now 

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[WILF 49,552]

Just now, mC HULL said:

who knew what it was wilf early 90s i watched very few knew until to late went from smoking resin to thinking it was the same ? it wasn’t like now no 

Literally everyone knew mate, I’m not having it that people in the late 80s and in the 90s didn’t know what a lethal thing skag was…..lethal not just because you may OD, but lethal in as much as it dragged lives into literal hell……everyone knew that by then. 

[Borr 7,576]

Wtf is skag?

[poxon 5,909]

Just now, Borr said:

Wtf is skag?

Brown lady heroine 

[mC HULL 15,509]

10 minutes ago, WILF said:

Literally everyone knew mate, I’m not having it that people in the late 80s and in the 90s didn’t know what a lethal thing skag was…..lethal not just because you may OD, but lethal in as much as it dragged lives into literal hell……everyone knew that by then. 

not this way it was 90s on epidemic when teenagers were getting it passed as resin older lads at same time were smoking it to come down on from nights out there weren’t any gear heads before then be like ages 60 to 45 now but got at it the same time 

 

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[WILF 49,552]

5 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

not this way it was 90s on epidemic when teenagers were getting it passed as resin older lads at same time were smoking it to come down on from nights out there weren’t any gear heads before then be like ages 60 to 45 now but got at it the same time 

 

I met a group of chaps from Holland once with a mutual friend, they were sat there doing Charlie to go up and then skag to come down…..mental !……make no mistake, they knew exactly what it was.

My point is, in that time period you’d have had to have spent your life locked in a box not to know what skag was and what it did. 

[WataWalloper 3,261]

Don’t know about everywhere else, but in Scotland, especially Glasgow them folk knew the dangers of smack even back in the late 80s, I had an addict uncle on both sides of family an both where some the first in Glasgow, so they might have not known but everybody after them to could see plain as day what it done to folk

 

iv saw folk try it through pain, grief, mental illness, weakness, curiosity, as an aide to come down off other drugs, to fit in and a whole host of other reasons, saw folk who played with it for years an it never got a grip, saw folk toot it a coulee a times aftwr the dancing to come down an become bad junkies very soon after, it’s liek drink or whatever else we become addicted to, easy to start but hard to kick, I understand the folk who hate it an the folk on it, but again maybe cos I saw it as a kid an knew it could happen to even the nicest uncles you could have that I can sort of get why folk end up on it 

[WataWalloper 3,261]

Late 80s it want uncommon to find folk overdosed on our way to  school or anywhere else, laid in doorways, in parks, an the council even had to for lockable doors to all the closes (blocks a tenements) cos they would sit up them an have a hit, so it was deffo plain to see, not sure about other places tho as I do know Glasgow an especially the part we grew up in was real bad for it, early on 

[WILF 49,552]

1 minute ago, WataWalloper said:

Late 80s it want uncommon to find folk overdosed on our way to  school or anywhere else, laid in doorways, in parks, an the council even had to for lockable doors to all the closes (blocks a tenements) cos they would sit up them an have a hit, so it was deffo plain to see, not sure about other places tho as I do know Glasgow an especially the part we grew up in was real bad for it, early on 

It was all over the telly mate, didn’t matter where you lived….hence my point. 

[mC HULL 15,509]

7 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

Don’t know about everywhere else, but in Scotland, especially Glasgow them folk knew the dangers of smack even back in the late 80s, I had an addict uncle on both sides of family an both where some the first in Glasgow, so they might have not known but everybody after them to could see plain as day what it done to folk

 

iv saw folk try it through pain, grief, mental illness, weakness, curiosity, as an aide to come down off other drugs, to fit in and a whole host of other reasons, saw folk who played with it for years an it never got a grip, saw folk toot it a coulee a times aftwr the dancing to come down an become bad junkies very soon after, it’s liek drink or whatever else we become addicted to, easy to start but hard to kick, I understand the folk who hate it an the folk on it, but again maybe cos I saw it as a kid an knew it could happen to even the nicest uncles you could have that I can sort of get why folk end up on it 

same mate but it more like 90 on i’d say well this way there was no methadone or out until  about 97 ?

no one knew what it was parents and that didn’t have a clue it was resin anphetamine eggs trips closest to gear was reckitts

cocaine wilf lol how many were taking that in 80a genuine question ? 

[mC HULL 15,509]

11 minutes ago, WILF said:

It was all over the telly mate, didn’t matter where you lived….hence my point. 

were ? i had a front row seat just about nothing on the telly first i could remember was brookside corkhill that was mid 90s 

 

[gnasher16 31,181]

22 minutes ago, WILF said:

It was all over the telly mate, didn’t matter where you lived….hence my point. 

Zammo Mcguire ....." Just say No ".....what was that 81/82 ?

[poxon 5,909]

This drug takes souls the amount of people I’ve known over the years die from this shits unbelievable thinking about it not many make it out alive I’ve a cousin who’s on this shit she’s lost it all home,husband kids she’s gone from a very pretty woman to a skeleton that sells her self for money for drugs really sad she’ll not except any help to get off the gear most the family have washed there hands of her because she’ll rob the clothes of your back even her mother said she’ll be dead soon what a shit drug to get hooked on