chartpolski 27,513 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, WILF said: I’m confident, in fact I’m positive, that this insanity will all end somehow….always has, always will. Probably not in any meaningful way in my lifetime, but for future generations certainly……the kicker is that we don’t know how. As it stands I can’t see it being sensible, this ends in chaos and brutality…..but, it’s shifting sands all the time and we can only hope. I’m a bit of a political nerd, I talk to family, friends, people on my WhatsApp groups and , of course. “ the man down the pub” , or the allotments, in my case. I see feelings running the full spectrum; from fear through indifference to anger, but many , in fact the vast majority , are deeply against the status quo. What will happen ? Well, my own opinion is Reform will win the next General Election, but Labour will have left the country in such a state Reform will have great difficulty in turning things around, and people will say “ see, they are just the same as the rest !”. I hope not, though. Cheers. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,610 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I’m a bit of a political nerd, I talk to family, friends, people on my WhatsApp groups and , of course. “ the man down the pub” , or the allotments, in my case. I see feelings running the full spectrum; from fear through indifference to anger, but many , in fact the vast majority , are deeply against the status quo. What will happen ? Well, my own opinion is Reform will win the next General Election, but Labour will have left the country in such a state Reform will have great difficulty in turning things around, and people will say “ see, they are just the same as the rest !”. I hope not, though. Cheers. Isn't that what's happening now? We can't just keep using that as an excuse? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,513 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 Just now, Pardus said: Isn't that what's happening now? We can't just keep using that as an excuse? Using what as an excuse ? I was giving an opinion, not making excuses . Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,716 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 3 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I’m a bit of a political nerd, I talk to family, friends, people on my WhatsApp groups and , of course. “ the man down the pub” , or the allotments, in my case. I see feelings running the full spectrum; from fear through indifference to anger, but many , in fact the vast majority , are deeply against the status quo. What will happen ? Well, my own opinion is Reform will win the next General Election, but Labour will have left the country in such a state Reform will have great difficulty in turning things around, and people will say “ see, they are just the same as the rest !”. I hope not, though. Cheers. I think that’s a pretty valid guess mate, folks memory’s last as long as a headline from what I can see of it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,610 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 3 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Using what as an excuse ? I was giving an opinion, not making excuses . Cheers. Eh? I'm saying, isn't that what the Tories said and now Labour? If Reform win and fail then that's on them! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,716 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Pardus said: Eh? I'm saying, isn't that what the Tories said and now Labour? If Reform win and fail then that's on them! Yeah, fair shout that….. And it’s down to people to remember the state of things before……Will folks swallow hardship for the chance of a different outcome ?…..that’s the question Edited June 30 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,513 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 3 minutes ago, Pardus said: Eh? I'm saying, isn't that what the Tories said and now Labour? If Reform win and fail then that's on them! Ahh, ok ! Perhaps you should have said “they” rather than “ “we” ? My bad, I tend to read things literally, maybe something to do with my OCD ! LOL ! Cheers 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,660 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 44 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I’m a bit of a political nerd, I talk to family, friends, people on my WhatsApp groups and , of course. “ the man down the pub” , or the allotments, in my case. I see feelings running the full spectrum; from fear through indifference to anger, but many , in fact the vast majority , are deeply against the status quo. What will happen ? Well, my own opinion is Reform will win the next General Election, but Labour will have left the country in such a state Reform will have great difficulty in turning things around, and people will say “ see, they are just the same as the rest !”. I hope not, though. Cheers. I think they'll have a few ideas from the States ,such as doge which the reform councils are trying to implement, plus if they can pull off leaving echr and remove all illegals that will give them some allowances when it comes to the long term difficulties. Interesting times ahead....trump and co is definitely leading the way with illegals....imagine reform attempting it with Obama in power....he tried to kybosh Brexit 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 3,531 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, Borr said: I think they'll have a few ideas from the States ,such as doge which the reform councils are trying to implement, plus if they can pull off leaving echr and remove all illegals that will give them some allowances when it comes to the long term difficulties. Interesting times ahead....trump and co is definitely leading the way with illegals....imagine reform attempting it with Obama in power....he tried to kybosh Brexit I'm with you on that one mate. It's a sorry state of affairs though , when your only hope is the leader of a foreign government thousands of miles away . 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ditchman 3,262 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, mel b said: I'm with you on that one mate. It's a sorry state of affairs though , when your only hope is the leader of a foreign government thousands of miles away . as you both say ......if Reform drop the ECHR...and deal properly with the illigal migrants..........just do those 2 in coming to power ...the people will get right behind Farage lock stock and barrel....... at the moment it is all "talk the talk"......but can they "walk the walk" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bendigo 759 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 As I said earlier we are a country with high living standards and it's all debt and illusion. Listen to the headlines 'britains economy is looking positive because we grew by 0.2 percent rather than the 0.1 predicated'. If reform win I think the bank of England will send interest rates through the roof and then say 'look how they ruined the economy'.... and back we will go to years of lib/lab/con. I genuinely don't think we will get real change until we have a true collapse first. But that might come at any time. Could you imagine the chinks cutting the internet via sea cables or cyber war. Any sense of real panic and Britain would destroy itself in a month. Look at the panic when we ran out of bog roll. I remember during the scamdemic and they were reporting on empty shelves.....I walked past the reporters at the front, past the empty ready meal and pasta shelves and over to the butcher, fishmonger and veg and filled my trolley! 4 weeks without internet and Britain will be a smoking ruin, people bbqing each other.....then I'll crawl from the rubble in my Knight's outfit and take over !! 1 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 3,668 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1939640138327314840 new party Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bendigo 759 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 23 minutes ago, scotty12 said: https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1939640138327314840 new party Apparently it's not a party but a 'movement' that any politician can join. Hopefully it's about fighting the left and our real enemies rather than causing more in fighting and discussion about 'whos British' and who's not 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ditchman 3,262 Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 Rupert Lowe says alot of things that i approve of ...............BUT he is one person i do not trust....i constantly get the feeling he is in it for himself.......he has alot of diverse assets,,...and is wanting to grow that potfolio.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 3,668 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 (edited) On 30/06/2025 at 21:15, Bendigo said: Apparently it's not a party but a 'movement' that any politician can join. Hopefully it's about fighting the left and our real enemies rather than causing more in fighting and discussion about 'whos British' and who's not Correct but as I said before politics is finished the way that we know it, it will be a small committee like group that works for WE THE PEOPLE as we head into the near future all the pieces of the jigsaw are coming together. I did say it would seem to get worse before it got better. we are being freed from being slaves right in front of our eyes Edited July 1 by scotty12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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