Pardus 1,609 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 16 minutes ago, kanny said: It's a blatant denile of the obvious, their death was caused by a indiscriminate Iranian missile, Israel a targeting military and nuclear targets, Iran are just hoping to make through the dome regardless of target ,the inconsistency of people's anger at civilians deaths is just comical at this point. I don't think it should come down to point scoring, civilian death in war is inevitable but no less tragic. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 923 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 Trump is in a tough spot .most Americans don't want an other war , but AIPAC are very powerful . Iran has said it would only attack American troops in the region if America attacks them first . One thing is certain , if American does not attack Iran and an America base gets attacked , it was not the Iranians . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,356 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 41 minutes ago, paul sr said: Israel is not used to fighting an opponent that can fight back. C’mon mate ! In the Six Day War alone, Israel defeated the combined militaries of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq. Every war they’ve fought they’ve won ! You’ll say they were backed by America, but the Arabs were backed by just about every Arab nation and supplied by the Russians. Isreal can’t lose a war, it would be the end of them. Iran’s stated aim is the complete destruction of Isreal. As I’ve said before, I’m an “Arabist”, ( not, I hasten to add, an Islamist !), but I think Isreal has the right to exist, a view most Arab nations are now adopting. Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 923 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 4 minutes ago, chartpolski said: C’mon mate ! In the Six Day War alone, Israel defeated the combined militaries of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq. Every war they’ve fought they’ve won ! You’ll say they were backed by America, but the Arabs were backed by just about every Arab nation and supplied by the Russians. Isreal can’t lose a war, it would be the end of them. Iran’s stated aim is the complete destruction of Isreal. As I’ve said before, I’m an “Arabist”, ( not, I hasten to add, an Islamist !), but I think Isreal has the right to exist, a view most Arab nations are now adopting. Cheers. I totality agree Israel has the right to exist . There was so much good will towards Israel after the creation of the state . They squandered all that good will, with there arrogance and fu-k ever body attitude. As regard Iran saying they want to destroy Israel ,i think that is trash talk . The biggest problem in the middle east is America and the west has never being an honest broker . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 923 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 25 minutes ago, chartpolski said: C’mon mate ! In the Six Day War alone, Israel defeated the combined militaries of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq. Every war they’ve fought they’ve won ! You’ll say they were backed by America, but the Arabs were backed by just about every Arab nation and supplied by the Russians. Isreal can’t lose a war, it would be the end of them. Iran’s stated aim is the complete destruction of Isreal. As I’ve said before, I’m an “Arabist”, ( not, I hasten to add, an Islamist !), but I think Isreal has the right to exist, a view most Arab nations are now adopting. Cheers. As regard the destruction of Israel , do you know what the christian zionists believe in ? . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,356 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 2 minutes ago, paul sr said: I totality agree Israel has the right to exist . There was so much good will towards Israel after the creation of the state . They squandered all that good will, with there arrogance and fu-k ever body attitude. As regard Iran saying they want to destroy Israel ,i think that is trash talk . The biggest problem in the middle east is America and the west has never being an honest broker . In the last few years the battle for hegemony over the Middle East has been between Iran and Saudi Arabia. The war in Yemen is a proxy war with Iran backing the insurgent Houthi and Saudi backing the Yemen Government. Irans proxies in the Middle East , Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthi, etc are hated by “moderate “ Arab nations like Jordan, Saudi, U.A.E., these nations who once backed the destruction of Isreal are now shooting down Iranian missiles heading for Isreal ! Its a very complex situation, always had been, and I certainly don’t have the answers, but making sure Iran doesn’t have a deliverable nuclear weapon seems a good start. Cheers. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,356 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 6 minutes ago, paul sr said: As regard the destruction of Israel , do you know what the christian zionists believe in ? . I assumed it was the same as Jewish Zionism, the right of return of Jews to the Jewish homeland ? Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 923 Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 4 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I assumed it was the same as Jewish Zionism, the right of return of Jews to the Jewish homeland ? Cheers. No they believe that when all the jews move to Israel , all the arab nations will go to attack Israel and the majority of jews will be killed and the Jews not killed will covert to christianity . Then jesus will return to earth . These people are anti-semitic head bangers . I assume the Israel's thinks of them as useful idiots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,740 Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 Iv also seen videos of misses hitting tel aviv Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,576 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 Looks like trump has dropped the big bombs now..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,925 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 Looking like America are now at war with Iran. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,609 Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 So, it's been confirmed, Trump is as much as an Israeli lapdog as Sleepy Joe, I thought it was all America first? Lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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