mC HULL 15,501 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 20 minutes ago, chartpolski said: The B1 is supersonic but hasn’t got the payload capacity of the B2. Whether they can outrun SAM’s I don’t know, but probably not. The Iranian air defences have been so denuded as to be almost useless ,that’s why the Israelis can fly hundred of sorties with fighter bombers with little to no losses. I think the Iranians have only reported shooting down two Israeli jets. Cheers. one i was thinking of was real high altitudes and could outrun missiles it may of been that one you was talking about it expanding leaking fuel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bendigo 698 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 23 minutes ago, Pardus said: Let's be honest, if Obama did it you would be calling him a globalist warmongering shill. Lol Personally I wouldn't.....for what little I care. I think targeted strikes at nuclear development sites in Iran isn't the same as invading Iraq. But then again let's see how deep America and even other Western countries begin to get sucked into this and see if it develops in to full regime change. If Iran stats attacking shipping and oil transport I think it could change quite quickly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ditchman 3,211 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 18 minutes ago, mel b said: if you were there Mel.....you would be doing an insertion of enriched ginger no doubt.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chesney 5,578 Posted June 23 Author Report Share Posted June 23 Jihadis have quit hamas and hezbollah in there droves since Greta and Mary lou became supporters not given there lives if that's what Muhammad has in store for them 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,342 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: one i was thinking of was real high altitudes and could outrun missiles it may of been that one you was talking about it expanding leaking fuel They thought the U2 could outrun SAM’s but Gary Powers will tell you different ! LOL ! They were spy planes though, not bombers. Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: one i was thinking of was real high altitudes and could outrun missiles it may of been that one you was talking about it expanding leaking fuel SR71 Blackbird. Their plan when a SAM caught them was to drop the hammer. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 19 minutes ago, chartpolski said: They thought the U2 could outrun SAM’s but Gary Powers will tell you different ! LOL ! They were spy planes though, not bombers. Cheers. U2 wasn’t made to outrun, just be out of range full stop. Or was that the BS they fed POTUS to get the flights authorised Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,501 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: SR71 Blackbird. Their plan when a SAM caught them was to drop the hammer. that’s it the blackbird was it a bomber ? or fighter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Just now, mC HULL said: that’s it the blackbird was it a bomber ? or fighter Neither, pure reconnaissance plane. Fast as f**k. A Lockheed skunkworks product. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,342 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, Born Hunter said: U2 wasn’t made to outrun, just be out of range full stop. Or was that the BS they fed POTUS to get the flights authorised Yes, I know it was supposed to fly at an altitude that SAM’s weren’t supposed to reach, I think it was above 70,000 feet. But the Russians had missiles that could. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Just now, chartpolski said: Yes, I know it was supposed to fly at an altitude that SAM’s weren’t supposed to reach, I think it was above 70,000 feet. But the Russians had missiles that could. Cheers. If I’m not mistaken they got RAF pilots to fly the first ops as it was deemed politically less sensitive British citizens getting caught than yanks. I don’t think they were flights over the USSR though. I think that might’ve been east Germany or somewhere less sensitive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,342 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Neither, pure reconnaissance plane. Fast as f**k. A Lockheed skunkworks product. I had a desk top model of a SR71 but it went missing with one of my shipment boxes when I came home when I retired. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,505 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, Pardus said: Let's be honest, if Obama did it you would be calling him a globalist warmongering shill. Lol I think that’s a fair point, and let’s be honest, the “Boots on the ground” interventions over the last 30 years or so have been a f***ing disaster ! But, I think most people could sniff out all these bullshit wars the last 30 years…..but this feels different surely ? I also think that if it gos to “boots on the ground” then that’s a different story…..the last time America made a success of boots on the ground was D-Day !……they have made a shit show of every conflict since. Im all in favour of just smashing Iran and Palestine to ashes, but do just that, smash them to oblivion and then just leave them…..don’t do what we always do and try and go in and play Mr Nice Guy to “mend” it all again. The stated aim should be total destruction, nothing else and that can be done from the sky. I think everyone is sick of putting lads on the ground with one arm tied behind their back and then never letting them achieve a proper military outcome. All we have seemed to do the last few decades is take casualties, waste billions, and then give them all a free pass to our own country’s…..that, I don’t support ! Just kill these f***ing beasts and leave it at that. 6 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chesney 5,578 Posted June 23 Author Report Share Posted June 23 13 minutes ago, WILF said: I think that’s a fair point, and let’s be honest, the “Boots on the ground” interventions over the last 30 years or so have been a f***ing disaster ! But, I think most people could sniff out all these bullshit wars the last 30 years…..but this feels different surely ? I also think that if it gos to “boots on the ground” then that’s a different story…..the last time America made a success of boots on the ground was D-Day !……they have made a shit show of every conflict since. Im all in favour of just smashing Iran and Palestine to ashes, but do just that, smash them to oblivion and then just leave them…..don’t do what we always do and try and go in and play Mr Nice Guy to “mend” it all again. The stated aim should be total destruction, nothing else and that can be done from the sky. I think everyone is sick of putting lads on the ground with one arm tied behind their back and then never letting them achieve a proper military outcome. All we have seemed to do the last few decades is take casualties, waste billions, and then give them all a free pass to our own country’s…..that, I don’t support ! Just kill these f***ing beasts and leave it at that. It's what Russians done in Chechnya and Aleppo in Syria just flattened it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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