Wanted

[iworkwhippets 13,130]

Volunteers,  people with time on there hands, to help the residents of Birmingham clear months of rubbish, I'm.on.my way eh.      .

[Lenmcharristar 10,233]

Let the dirty lazy pakis who chucked it into the street clean their own mess up

[Daniel cain 48,182]

f**k them and let them live in their own shit...bow down and clean it up this time ...it will be like it all across the UK..

[iworkwhippets 13,130]

2 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Let the dirty lazy pakis who chucked it into the street clean their own mess up

Well that's not a very nice thing to say about ya fellow man is it mrmcharristar, eh, it's not there fault , the bin men are on strike, , these Pakis as you say come over in dinghies to do the jobs we as bone idle dole wallahs won't do, victory in Europe looming, shame on us , 

[mel b 3,469]

Speaking from a biased point of view . I fully support the binmen ( although i reckon theyre fighting a losing battle). Speaking from experience,  and trying not to sound like a screaming racist. The issue with piles of rubbish in the streets , is only in the areas that mainly house ethnic minorities . As soon as one bag appears , they'll just pile rubbish as high as they can, and then blame everyone else . You won't see the rubbish piled up in most of the whiter areas ( except the high unemployment areas), as they'll take care of things themselves , by using the tips,  or cleaning and storing their waste at home , until it can be taken.

The binmen can't win . Local authorities are pushing as hard as they can , to get as many staff as possible,  on minimum wage .  Great for the top brass , that are earning 100k plus , and a final salary pension , not so great if you're working your balls off on minimum wage , and being treated as little more than a slave.

[waltjnr 7,875]

25 minutes ago, mel b said:

Speaking from a biased point of view . I fully support the binmen ( although i reckon theyre fighting a losing battle). Speaking from experience,  and trying not to sound like a screaming racist. The issue with piles of rubbish in the streets , is only in the areas that mainly house ethnic minorities . As soon as one bag appears , they'll just pile rubbish as high as they can, and then blame everyone else . You won't see the rubbish piled up in most of the whiter areas ( except the high unemployment areas), as they'll take care of things themselves , by using the tips,  or cleaning and storing their waste at home , until it can be taken.

The binmen can't win . Local authorities are pushing as hard as they can , to get as many staff as possible,  on minimum wage .  Great for the top brass , that are earning 100k plus , and a final salary pension , not so great if you're working your balls off on minimum wage , and being treated as little more than a slave.w 

3rd world rats live like rats ,where ever they pitch up ,to be fair to rats they are a cut above the scum that are filling our country, a few terriers and a smoker ain't going to get rid of our vermin ! 

Edited April 25 by waltjnr

[tatsblisters 10,922]

13 hours ago, mel b said:

Speaking from a biased point of view . I fully support the binmen ( although i reckon theyre fighting a losing battle). Speaking from experience,  and trying not to sound like a screaming racist. The issue with piles of rubbish in the streets , is only in the areas that mainly house ethnic minorities . As soon as one bag appears , they'll just pile rubbish as high as they can, and then blame everyone else . You won't see the rubbish piled up in most of the whiter areas ( except the high unemployment areas), as they'll take care of things themselves , by using the tips,  or cleaning and storing their waste at home , until it can be taken.

The binmen can't win . Local authorities are pushing as hard as they can , to get as many staff as possible,  on minimum wage .  Great for the top brass , that are earning 100k plus , and a final salary pension , not so great if you're working your balls off on minimum wage , and being treated as little more than a slave.

Talking to an old mate recently who i have not seen for years who has done 40 years on the bins and has just took early retirement and said the last ten years have been horrendous due to higher management and how the some of the public treat lads who are doing an essential service and then there is two parts of Rotherham in rough areas of old run down terraced houses that have become Roma Slovak communities who just chuck their rubbish in the street despite warnings from the council and said it was a thankless task cleaning up after them every week and not just emptying their bins. 

[mel b 3,469]

1 hour ago, tatsblisters said:

Talking to an old mate recently who i have not seen for years who has done 40 years on the bins and has just took early retirement and said the last ten years have been horrendous due to higher management and how the some of the public treat lads who are doing an essential service and then there is two parts of Rotherham in rough areas of old run down terraced houses that have become Roma Slovak communities who just chuck their rubbish in the street despite warnings from the council and said it was a thankless task cleaning up after them every week and not just emptying their bins. 

Bang on the money.

I've got 25 years in , and it's turned from a great job,  into an utter shitshow in every way possible.  I'm one of the lucky ones . My wages are still OK ish , and I'm on a permanent contract.  Most of the lads are agency workers , on zero hours contracts.  They get little more than minimum wage , and get treated like shit , and bullied mercilessly  by management. 

An old union rep ( sadly passed away now), went to a meeting with the top brass at the town Hall,  about 15 years ago. He came back , and said " I'm not doing this shit for minimum wage" , put his notice in , and started his own business.  It was made clear that the aim was to get everyone on minimum wage.

This has resulted in a poorly motivated workforce ( many that have been forced off benefits), that have no interest in working hard, and no incentive . Some days they can't even get enough crews to do the rounds . Add to that , most days , up to half of the ageing fleet of trucks can be broken down , and you've got crews sitting around waiting for vehicles .

The whole system is just broken , and the Birmingham bin strikes is just a tiny glimpse of what's really going on.

Edited to add.

Roma are something else.

They'll just shit where they stand .

They have to be seen to be believed. 

[Councilestatekid 2,112]

Round us the bin men arnt what they once was like car on a back street only 2 bins behond the car like the next houses up bin lads dint take bins as truck couldn't get to them only had to wheel bins round car now 3 streets near me been told have to wheel all bins to bottom of their street as wagon driver doesn't like reversing up back streets bit tight drove past after bin lads had emptied bins just left all over in road covered all pavements they do the absolute minimum wouldn't pay half the dregs more than minimum wage where if they got the decent lads like before and paid that little bit more they have more about them and put bins back tidy have sense to grab the 2 bins have lads who can drive the truck properly not just come off a hgv course from dole office 

[mel b 3,469]

6 minutes ago, Councilestatekid said:

Round us the bin men arnt what they once was like car on a back street only 2 bins behond the car like the next houses up bin lads dint take bins as truck couldn't get to them only had to wheel bins round car now 3 streets near me been told have to wheel all bins to bottom of their street as wagon driver doesn't like reversing up back streets bit tight drove past after bin lads had emptied bins just left all over in road covered all pavements they do the absolute minimum wouldn't pay half the dregs more than minimum wage where if they got the decent lads like before and paid that little bit more they have more about them and put bins back tidy have sense to grab the 2 bins have lads who can drive the truck properly not just come off a hgv course from dole office 

I can answer a couple of those mate.

I still take my truck into the tight places , but we aren't supposed to. The reason is that if you scratch a car with nobody sitting in it , the council will have a claim for four people with whiplash , lifelong trauma , and a new car . The council will then spend thousands fighting it in court .  I know , because I've been involved in a few spurious claims . One of the claims was when me and my truck were five miles away ( on tracker). Someone just took the reg number , and took a punt. They obviously didn't win , but it costs the council a fortune to fight it.

We still move two bins at a time(some of the lads can handle three or four bins), but we aren't allowed to , because of health and safety rules. If the lads get caught doing it , they can get sacked . The same with collecting bins from drives . It's private property,  and if you damage someone's car etc while dragging a bin , you'll get the sack , and you'll have to pay for the damage out of your own pocket.

At the moment,  I'm on a written warning for scrubbing the sidewalls on my tyres. They get scrubbed on kerbs,  when I take the truck into narrow streets.  My options are , scrub the tyres and get a warning , or leave the street without emptying the bins.

The rot starts at the top , and filters down mate . Some of the shit I have to tolerate is just insane to any normal person .  To the public , we just look like idiots(and feel like idiots doing it) , but the orders usually come from the top , quite often from some pen pusher that's never seen anything other than a desk and a computer. Trying to reason with them , is like trying to reason with a five year old child , that can't understand why you won't let them eat five bowls of icecream. 

[Councilestatekid 2,112]

Yea pal the 2 bins left you could fit a car past but obviously not the bin wagon so could easily pull the 2 bins past. But the councils piss alot of our coin away my council tax gone up 5% every year for past good knows how many years they don't put owt worth while into our town anymore but local councillor has managed to get a big house off back of it 1 of those who got done for fiddling expenses all the folk above try cut all the people doing the work they'd be up roar if they tried to cut there pay holidays etc 

[mel b 3,469]

43 minutes ago, Councilestatekid said:

Yea pal the 2 bins left you could fit a car past but obviously not the bin wagon so could easily pull the 2 bins past. But the councils piss alot of our coin away my council tax gone up 5% every year for past good knows how many years they don't put owt worth while into our town anymore but local councillor has managed to get a big house off back of it 1 of those who got done for fiddling expenses all the folk above try cut all the people doing the work they'd be up roar if they tried to cut there pay holidays etc 

I can't speak for those couple of bins mate .    Unless they have a reason , then they should have collected them . Me or my guys would have collected them . Can't be arsed is never a good enough reason mate .

I've just written a really long post , but I've had to delete it . Letting the cat out of the bag , would cost me my job , and my piss poor pension, that's diminishing yearly , from the pension I was promised 25 years ago.

[waltjnr 7,875]

People drive and park like self entitled vaginas, I pity bin men ,emergency services, housing estates weren't designed for 4 cars per household, back streets are gridlocked 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,732]

39 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

People drive and park like self entitled vaginas, I pity bin men ,emergency services, housing estates weren't designed for 4 cars per household, back streets are gridlocked 

The fault lies with the councils as well as the local authorities for each county produce a design guide with specific sizes for streets with allocated uses eg how wide a street in a new build estate has to be etc . 

obviously the wider the road , the greater cost etc 

 

 

 

[mel b 3,469]

2 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

The fault lies with the councils as well as the local authorities for each county produce a design guide with specific sizes for streets with allocated uses eg how wide a street in a new build estate has to be etc . 

obviously the wider the road , the greater cost etc 

 

 

 

A lot of the borough that I drive in is old terraced streets . When the houses were built , the only transport was horse and cart. Trying to get a bin truck down them is a total nightmare.  You can get smaller trucks , but the cost is the crippler.

Quite often you'll drive into a tight street , and you don't know if you can get out at the other end . By the time you've got to the other end , you've got a dozen cars behind you . That's when you've got to ask them all to reverse , and the shouting starts .

I regularly have to reverse cars out , for people that can't reverse .

I can understand why people hate binmen , sometimes I hate binmen .