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[Halfhound 625]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

I used to think that mate, but I don’t anymore more…..I think it’s a pain killer !

Like, don’t know about Ireland but in Britain it’s been the case for a long time that if most poor c**ts grafting all week only bought things when they had enough spare cash then they would have nothing, ever !

So, they are offered relief from this nightmare by credit companies and the marketing gets done via social media……they can go to the shopping centre on a Saturday and get themselves something nice on the visa and kid themselves on for a while they are getting forward instead of just working for the state and their mates in the banks !

I remember years ago going shopping for a new sofa with my Mrs and the sales bloke nearly fell on the floor when I pulled out a roll of cash and said “I’ll take it now” ! 
You could tell that just never happened to that man.

You won’t see blokes with wallets full of cash in the U.K. like you do in Ireland mate…..you won’t see the poverty here like in the U.K. 

No I get it. I was in London only 3 weeks ago and only my missus was with me we would have struggled to get a drink in around the west end. I don’t have any bank accounts and only use cash but she has a card a lot of the pubs won’t take cash now. I think they’ve copped on to what you’re saying about Ireland though. There’s too many people asset rich with farms etc. This mersecor deal will put pay to that it will take a few years but families will eventually crumble and sell. I do realise it was just a TV programme but a lot of the issues highlighted in Yellowstone will been seen I think. And back on topic it will be blamed on somebody and Mr Putin will probably be that person. 

[WILF 51,753]

2 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

No I get it. I was in London only 3 weeks ago and only my missus was with me we would have struggled to get a drink in around the west end. I don’t have any bank accounts and only use cash but she has a card a lot of the pubs won’t take cash now. I think they’ve copped on to what you’re saying about Ireland though. There’s too many people asset rich with farms etc. This mersecor deal will put pay to that it will take a few years but families will eventually crumble and sell. I do realise it was just a TV programme but a lot of the issues highlighted in Yellowstone will been seen I think. And back on topic it will be blamed on somebody and Mr Putin will probably be that person. 

100% mate, I completely agree because I’ve seen it all play out in my nation.

First they undermine the bedrock of the country and so the dominoes fall 

[mitre 466]

I think it is stupid not to appect cash in any of them pubs it should be a choice card or cash at the end of the day they have lost a sale I remember one local chip shop by us only wanted cash as of the transaction from the cards the fees you you got to watch some places they only want card so they can skim your card  and fleese you high and dry in some back alley pubs and shops 

[paul sr 970]

56 minutes ago, WILF said:

100% mate, I completely agree because I’ve seen it all play out in my nation.

First they undermine the bedrock of the country and so the dominoes fall 

All western countries were built on the family ,community,hard work,  love of country , cultural and heritage. All this has being slowly undermined and dismantled since the sixties  by elites .  The same elites control  the  politicians, media ,etc  and are responsible  for the majority of the problems in the world today . 

[mel b 4,473]

2 hours ago, WILF said:

I think, at least it’s how I’ve always looked at life, that everyone’s entitled to a living…..if I sell you something for a price I’m happy with and you then sell it for 5 times the money I don’t give 2 fucks, I’m happy, your happy and you come back to buy something again and so the world gos round !

 

This is the way I've always seen business , and the way I've always done business . 

Everyone needs to be happy with the deal . 

[mel b 4,473]

2 hours ago, Halfhound said:

People in Britain and Ireland as far as I can see are being sold the image of being well off and they are buying the image with borrowed money. I heard one the other day went something like what would you prefer.. a €1000 handbag with nothing in it or a €10 handbag with €990 in it. I think if people of a certain generation are looking around them at the moment they know which one 95% of 20-40 year olds would be happier with. And it cannot last. 

Lots of people are just dumb fucks , with no understanding of basic economics .

[mel b 4,473]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

I used to think that mate, but I don’t anymore more…..I think it’s a pain killer !

Like, don’t know about Ireland but in Britain it’s been the case for a long time that if most poor c**ts grafting all week only bought things when they had enough spare cash then they would have nothing, ever !

 

I disagree with some of that wilf. A lot of people are just soft , and can't tolerate any level of personal discomfort. They can't live with a 21" telly for a year , while they save up for a 50" telly .  They have to borrow the money to buy it straight away . 

The reality is , if you can't save up the money to buy it , then you just can't afford it . It's the most basic economics in the world. 

[Halfhound 625]

2 minutes ago, mel b said:

Lots of people are just dumb fucks , with no understanding of basic economics .

Don’t think it’s even economics mel I just think people don’t have the patience anymore to save for anything or go without something to put money aside for something else in the future. And nobody seems to be pointing it out the people in charge who should be looking out for the future generations just seem content for their pals in the banks to keep handing them rope. It sickens me 

[mel b 4,473]

Just now, Halfhound said:

Don’t think it’s even economics mel I just think people don’t have the patience anymore to save for anything or go without something to put money aside for something else in the future. And nobody seems to be pointing it out the people in charge who should be looking out for the future generations just seem content for their pals in the banks to keep handing them rope. It sickens me 

I've just posted again above mate.

Lots of people are just soft , and don't see the difference between wanting something , and needing something. 

They want a 50" telly , but they need food , and lots can't tell the difference. 

I know lots of lads that are struggling because they don't have enough cash , but I also know a lot of lads that are struggling because they get there priorities wrong , so they feel poor , when they really aren't.

[tatsblisters 11,249]

7 minutes ago, mel b said:

I've just posted again above mate.

Lots of people are just soft , and don't see the difference between wanting something , and needing something. 

They want a 50" telly , but they need food , and lots can't tell the difference. 

I know lots of lads that are struggling because they don't have enough cash , but I also know a lot of lads that are struggling because they get there priorities wrong , so they feel poor , when they really aren't.

I think high rents and mortgage repayments are a big factor in a lot of the younger ones being skint and obviously getting there priorities wrong. 

[mel b 4,473]

I work with a couple of lads , that have had to move out of there rented houses , and move there wife and kids , back in with there parents . They're genuinely trying hard , and genuinely struggling. 

On the other hand.

I know a fella that's 72 now , and hasn't had a job since he was 18. He lives in a council bungalow , and gets enhanced old age pension , as he claims for multiple fictitious illnesses (and has done for years). He always worked casual , and was earning £80.00 per day, when i was earning £50.00 per day on the books.     He gets a taxi every morning to the pub when it opens , and drinks until teatime , then gets a taxi home . He has a couple of British holidays every year , and a couple of foreign holidays.   He feels poverty stricken , and really hard done by , and will regularly say. " what have the f***ing government ever done for me " ?. He also had over 100k from the sale of a house of a relative that passed away. The money got hidden away , and was given to various breweries over the space of a few years.

 

Both feel hard up and hard done by , but one of them really really isn't.

 

[mel b 4,473]

5 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

I think high rents and mortgage repayments are a big factor in a lot of the younger ones being skint and obviously getting there priorities wrong. 

I agree with that's tats . Rents are genuinely crippling some people.

I've watched a few lads that I work with , go from happily paying rent every month , and being wise with there cash .  to having to give up there homes because of rent increases.

[Halfhound 625]

14 minutes ago, mel b said:

I've just posted again above mate.

Lots of people are just soft , and don't see the difference between wanting something , and needing something. 

They want a 50" telly , but they need food , and lots can't tell the difference. 

I know lots of lads that are struggling because they don't have enough cash , but I also know a lot of lads that are struggling because they get there priorities wrong , so they feel poor , when they really aren't.

Sorry I hadn’t seen it but 100% nail on the head couldn’t agree more. I do realise I could be an ignorant dope without a clue but I put some of it down to the modern schooling now. I never had any schooling learned my reading and writing in young offender prisons and little else. Anything I know about money and making it or keeping a house I learned from my father who couldn’t sign his name but he knew how to turn a few quid and no let anyone have his pants down in whatever dealings he had. It’s as if the youngsters now probably know they are getting a shit deal borrowing €1000 for a TV but they just don’t have the guts to go without it they’d rather be a fool. God be with the days you could drive a van in through a door and have whatever telly you liked 

[mel b 4,473]

2 minutes ago, Halfhound said:

Sorry I hadn’t seen it but 100% nail on the head couldn’t agree more. I do realise I could be an ignorant dope without a clue but I put some of it down to the modern schooling now. I never had any schooling learned my reading and writing in young offender prisons and little else. Anything I know about money and making it or keeping a house I learned from my father who couldn’t sign his name but he knew how to turn a few quid and no let anyone have his pants down in whatever dealings he had. It’s as if the youngsters now probably know they are getting a shit deal borrowing €1000 for a TV but they just don’t have the guts to go without it they’d rather be a fool. God be with the days you could drive a van in through a door and have whatever telly you liked 

If you learn the hard way , you remember the lesson mate .

I learned pretty early on , that nobody was ever going to give me f**k all. So if I wanted anything , I had to earn it .

I just can't see how folks don't understand,  that if you can't afford to save and buy something,  then you can't afford to pay for it afterwards,  with a shit load of interest on top . It just baffles me.