Trump.

[Moocher71 4,328]

18 minutes ago, WILF said:

Do you mean Farage wants the totally failed NHS to be like Europe where healthcare actually works ? 
 

 

Better ways to change NHS without going private ?

only treating English , Scottish,Welsh ,Irish born citizens would save it millions 

Let's just hope no one in your family needs to pay for a major operation or on going life saving treatmens 

[chartpolski 28,372]

The Hitler Youth was disbanded 20 years before Farage was born ! 
The story comes from a left wing journalist, Michael Crick, who said he first heard it 13 years ago , about an unamed school teacher who said he had heard a class of children sing a Hitler Youth song in a village when Farage was in that class.

Crick admitted on TV last night there was no foundation, no source and no witnesses to the accusation.

Three hours after making the accusation, Lammy admitted on TV that there was no evidence of the accusation, and he believes Farages denial it ever happened.

Proof of “Godwins Law “ when someone mentions  Hitler or the Nazis, they have lost the argument …..

Cheers.

[WILF 50,913]

1 minute ago, Moocher71 said:

Better ways to change NHS without going private ?

only treating English , Scottish,Welsh ,Irish born citizens would save it millions 

Let's just hope no one in your family needs to pay for a major operation or on going life saving treatmens 

First and foremost, the same people who think the NHS is untouchable are also mostly the same people who want the nation choc a block with non indigenous people ! 
 

What part of “The NHS isn’t fit for purpose and can’t survive” don’t you understand mate ? 
 

Other systems work much better !

“what do they know of England those who only England know ?” 
 

[WILF 50,913]

2 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

The Hitler Youth was disbanded 20 years before Farage was born ! 
The story comes from a left wing journalist, Michael Crick, who said he first heard it 13 years ago , about an unamed school teacher who said he had heard a class of children sing a Hitler Youth song in a village when Farage was in that class.

Crick admitted on TV last night there was no foundation, no source and no witnesses to the accusation.

Three hours after making the accusation, Lammy admitted on TV that there was no evidence of the accusation, and he believes Farages denial it ever happened.

Proof of “Godwins Law “ when someone mentions  Hitler or the Nazis, they have lost the argument …..

Cheers.

Don’t be silly mate, Jukel don’t like Farage and someone said it so that’s proof enough ! lol 

[Moocher71 4,328]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Nobody is suggesting American style private though are they ?

The Irish and French system is a mixed public/private system that is means tested…..and it works !, it works like a billion times better than the NHS !

That is what Farage has suggested !……keep spreading lies simply because you don’t like someone and in order to preserve something that is fatally broken isn’t doing anyone any favours really. 

Like I have said before we will see,I'm sure he will get his chance to run UK ,will it be better we will all have to wait and see 

[Bendigo 1,171]

1 hour ago, Moocher71 said:

No ,but let's be honest when you have that much money ,that much power things you have done in your past can be buried,if it was me or you that had been accused of rape x 2 or 3  we'd have been arrested and probably remanded in custody waiting a court date .

We all know money,power talks ,

The only people who really know is him and the woman, but I wouldn't want trump running UK 

If me and you were billionaires perhaps a couple of slags would of accused us.

Would you rather have trump running the UK or Blair/starmer/Diane Abbott?

[WILF 50,913]

1 minute ago, Moocher71 said:

Like I have said before we will see,I'm sure he will get his chance to run UK ,will it be better we will all have to wait and see 

So what led you to the conclusion that he wanted American style private and not European style hybrid when he clearly said European style hybrid ?…….im fascinated what made you think that and indeed if there was something I missed that backs up that claim ?

[Bendigo 1,171]

1 hour ago, Moocher71 said:

Two different aligations mate, 

He'd have to be in late 80d to be in Hitler youth ,

He's another one I don't trust,he's going to make NHS private , guarantee it .

Every one will have to pay for health care ,

If people think they struggle now ,wait until he gets in !!, he's not one of the boys like he makes out who as are best interests at heart ,he's for the rich like the rest 

What makes you say that so that you will guarantee it......where have you got that from? A discussion forum years ago where they were discussing alternatives to deal with the failed NHS! 

We need to change the NHS.....an attack on farage that 'he will make it worse' is just make believe

[scotty12 4,058]

21 minutes ago, Moocher71 said:

Sorry to hear you have Parkinson's,my grandfather had it and my dad also got it .

No one but English, British born from English, British parents should be given free NHS anything anyway in my opinion.

That's one of the reasons the NHS is in trouble,to many immigrants of all kinds taking the Mick ,

If the NHS goes private,how many people will be able to afford cancer treatments etc  and get the treatment they would have got before privatisation? 

I was offered a job abroad couple years ago , working with people like him with the bad teeth and I refused it because it's one thing helping everyone with a medical problem but a totally other one when if you can not pay your left to fcuking rot and refused treatment,in the states I know of people that go to health stores and buy remedies thinking it's going to help cure diseases that's going to kill them few years down the line because they can not afford the £160 bucks a tablet they need ,and these meds need to be taken 3 times a day for a month , imagine how much that costs?

how many times have you heard the saying "life is priceless" no it's not ,if your poor your f****d .

 

Just aswell the American health care system is changing and for the better. 
 

the old systems are dying and new ones being born just aswell we have a courageous leader taking the bull by the horns 
 

 

[WILF 50,913]

3 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

If me and you were billionaires perhaps a couple of slags would of accused us.

Would you rather have trump running the UK or Blair/starmer/Diane Abbott?

I think you said it best yourself before mate in another thread.

We all was young men in a time before all this “me too” and all that caper……who was in a club in 1990 half a bottle deep in Wild Turkey and 5 grams of Charlie and asked the pretty little sort in the mini dress to provide you with full ID and a breath test to make sure she was totally sober at 2am when you was in a taxi to a hotel to spend the night ruining each other ?

I’ll tell you who, nobody !….thats who !

If they trawled most peoples lives with a fine tooth comb they would find something to twist into something nasty !

Thats a fact !

[TRUEBRIT66 2,182]

5 minutes ago, Moocher71 said:

Sorry to hear you have Parkinson's,my grandfather had it and my dad also got it .

No one but English, British born from English, British parents should be given free NHS anything anyway in my opinion.

That's one of the reasons the NHS is in trouble,to many immigrants of all kinds taking the Mick ,

If the NHS goes private,how many people will be able to afford cancer treatments etc  and get the treatment they would have got before privatisation? 

I was offered a job abroad couple years ago , working with people like him with the bad teeth and I refused it because it's one thing helping everyone with a medical problem but a totally other one when if you can not pay your left to fcuking rot and refused treatment,in the states I know of people that go to health stores and buy remedies thinking it's going to help cure diseases that's going to kill them few years down the line because they can not afford the £160 bucks a tablet they need ,and these meds need to be taken 3 times a day for a month , imagine how much that costs?

how many times have you heard the saying "life is priceless" no it's not ,if your poor your f****d .

 

Thanks mate I'm comfortable with it and its under control for now, what will be will be.

Labour choose to use the NHS thing against Reform as fear factor as they know the NHS strikes a cord with the British public. Reform have said the NHS will be free at point of delivery and that will "never" change, so I'm prepared to accept that. Farage has however said he will look at the funding model which I believe would mean anyone anyone who hasn't paid in don't get treatment, which seems pretty fair to me. 

There are plenty of British people sat on their arses who have never paid in to the system and lived a life on benefits who are a drain on the NHS, they haven't helped there selves why should I be expected to pay for that? 

As I've mentioned previously I worked for the NHS and the waste and apathy of some of the staff was shocking. There was no real financial controls in place like a private sector operation and people were to scared question it. If a political parties policy is to look into that and change it for the better then they get my vote.   

 

[Moocher71 4,328]

24 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

What makes you say that so that you will guarantee it......where have you got that from? A discussion forum years ago where they were discussing alternatives to deal with the failed NHS! 

We need to change the NHS.....an attack on farage that 'he will make it worse' is just make believe

We all have are opinions mate, do you honestly believe those who can not afford treatment shouldn't get it ? 

 

[Moocher71 4,328]

I honestly believe when UK voted for Brexit all the MPs that agreed and pushed it forward should have came together and made their own party,we wouldn't be on the shit show we are now ,but because of pure blindness they didn't .

The NHS is only one problem and in my opinion if you take away treatments for those English, British people that can not afford them is fcuking wrong because that's the very reason it was set up for,to treat everyone fairly,rich or poor .

I can not stand this government or the last ,I believe labour should go now and give farage a chance but I honestly think the Brexit MPs missed a great opportunity 

[WILF 50,913]

15 minutes ago, Moocher71 said:

We all have are opinions mate, do you honestly believe those who can not afford treatment shouldn't get it ? 

 

Nobody has said that either !

[Moocher71 4,328]

Just now, WILF said:

Nobody has said that either !

No not out right,but privatisation means paying for treatment yes ?  

Hip replacement 15 k upwards

Having a baby ,10k upto 19 k 

Just having private midwife and care is 8k upwards,

Cancer treatments are thousands each course of chemo.

Not every English, British person can pay for treatment 

A lot of tablets that people need to stay alive costs stupid price for each tablet especially if they new .

Before the NHS people who could afford treatment payed doctors,the poor died .

If he makes NHS private for those who can pay we are going backynor forward,

And before you say I'm wrong how do you know,do you sit with him eating dinner ?