Migrants

[WILF 53,001]

[WILF 53,001]

From zero to 120,000 members in a month !……seems like plenty of other British people are ready for a party that isn’t ashamed to speak for them !

[mackay 3,862]

4 hours ago, Borr said:

Birmingham Eid prayers: As many as 30,000 Muslims descend on Small Heath Park to celebrate end of Ramadan

WWW.GBNEWS.COM

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Up to 30,000 worshippers gathered at Small...

 

 

There's 30 thousand candidates for deportation right there.

[mitre 553]

Seeing all them in small heath park they was not working school college doing anything thing just gathering arses up in the air blowing off their vindaloos the evening before making a racket if you or I do that with all the neighbours and locals the police will be down there wanting to know what you doing anti social gatherings

[mackem 31,816]

Change of direction by the government,thin end of the wedge.

Asylum-seeking doctors, nurses and other health professionals granted right to work

WWW.NHSEMPLOYERS.ORG

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The Home Office has announced a change to the immigration rules that will reinstate the right to work for...

 

[Bendigo 2,315]

9 minutes ago, mackem said:

Change of direction by the government,thin end of the wedge.

Asylum-seeking doctors, nurses and other health professionals granted right to work

WWW.NHSEMPLOYERS.ORG

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The Home Office has announced a change to the immigration rules that will reinstate the right to work for...

 

Problem is we are desperately short of doctors, nurses, health care staff, carers. 

I agree the answer isn't stealing them from abroad....but solving that shortage won't happen overnight and without massive fundamental changes 

[mackem 31,816]

2 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

Problem is we are desperately short of doctors, nurses, health care staff, carers. 

I agree the answer isn't stealing them from abroad....but solving that shortage won't happen overnight and without massive fundamental changes 

No one steals NHS staff from abroad mate,that's a fact,my lady came to the UK just for a year to work,they are recruited,stealing the staff is a bit of an odd way to describe it,my Son and Daughter-in-law are in healthcare and moved to the states,my lady has nieces who did the same,recruited is the word,better money and quality of life.

[WILF 53,001]

30 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

Problem is we are desperately short of doctors, nurses, health care staff, carers. 

I agree the answer isn't stealing them from abroad....but solving that shortage won't happen overnight and without massive fundamental changes 

Has Mohammed Zia Yousef got hold of your password for this site mate ? lol 

[Bendigo 2,315]

1 hour ago, mackem said:

No one steals NHS staff from abroad mate,that's a fact,my lady came to the UK just for a year to work,they are recruited,stealing the staff is a bit of an odd way to describe it,my Son and Daughter-in-law are in healthcare and moved to the states,my lady has nieces who did the same,recruited is the word,better money and quality of life.

I'd say we are stealing them from countries that need em more than us. Instead of long term investment in training British born. 

 

[mackem 31,816]

3 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

I'd say we are stealing them from countries that need em more than us. 

That’s fine,you dont understand the brain-drain isn’t theft,it’s entirely voluntary.

[mackem 31,816]

9 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

I'd say we are stealing them from countries that need em more than us. 

There’s currently 1652 NHS vacancies for doctors in the NHS,my son put the hard work in,I paid every single penny of his tuition,no student loans whatsoever,have the states nicked him?

 

[Borr 9,138]

I think the fact is we could have trained enough nurses doctors , bit like engineering we could've incentivised apprenticeships better , I'm surrounded with Indian engineers or you'll have a french company flooding a job with Slovakian labour. It seems like madness. Romania for example loses most of its professional work force to foreign countries , which is globalisation at work. Worse still is the lower skilled jobs that literally empty towns and villages of mostly men but sometimes both parents , leaving a village with just grandparents and children . It's common throughout Eastern Europe. It's terrible for society imo , poverty is worse but the EU cares only about harvesting the cheapest labour market damn the consequences. I've worked with polish lads they'll spend their lives here , go home a couple of times a year hardly a good way to raise a family. 

[mackem 31,816]

2 minutes ago, Borr said:

I think the fact is we could have trained enough nurses doctors , bit like engineering we could've incentivised apprenticeships better , I'm surrounded with Indian engineers or you'll have a french company flooding a job with Slovakian labour. It seems like madness. Romania for example loses most of its professional work force to foreign countries , which is globalisation at work. Worse still is the lower skilled jobs that literally empty towns and villages of mostly men but sometimes both parents , leaving a village with just grandparents and children . It's common throughout Eastern Europe. It's terrible for society imo , poverty is worse but the EU cares only about harvesting the cheapest labour market damn the consequences. I've worked with polish lads they'll spend their lives here , go home a couple of times a year hardly a good way to raise a family. 

I used to live in the Philippines,oversubscribed university course is nursing,families will sell land,get up to their eyeballs in debt to get a kid onto a nursing course as the kid can work and live abroad and make a good life,education is currency.Australia and New Zealand were recruiting doctors in the UK a few years back,in the past year I know three Canadian nurses who have went south of the border for a great salary and standard of living,people have always moved around for better money be it moving around the city,country or world.

[littlefish 619]

Local people should be very, very actively encouraged to train to fill these healthcare roles.  Plenty of them sitting on benefits, lots of them with life skills and capability to perfectly fulfill the role.   Wasting away on benefits should not be an easy option.

[WILF 53,001]

2 minutes ago, littlefish said:

Local people should be very, very actively encouraged to train to fill these healthcare roles.  Plenty of them sitting on benefits, lots of them with life skills and capability to perfectly fulfill the role.   Wasting away on benefits should not be an easy option.

True…..but we have to make tax and costs smaller so that they can actually live a life on the wages