Terrier off lead

[Daniel cain 42,878]

3 hours ago, Nicepix said:

Perhaps. But you do see people with dogs that are perfectly behaved and yet have one or more rogues amongst them. There is one near us who walks five off lead and one on lead. She wouldn't dare let it off or it would disappear into the horizon.

I walk a lurcher and 5 terriers,my Russell dog is a cnut,will fly into other dogs from outside our pack,but he does have recall and goes on a lead,you have to be quick mind all the others are bitches and 100% with other dogs..all been well socialized from pups,some are just not wired right

[Nicepix 5,650]

9 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

I walk a lurcher and 5 terriers,my Russell dog is a cnut,will fly into other dogs from outside our pack,but he does have recall and goes on a lead,you have to be quick mind all the others are bitches and 100% with other dogs..all been well socialized from pups,some are just not wired right

I know what you mean about getting in quick. Its called the precursor when a dog sees, hears or scents something and there is a split second when you can get a command in. If you miss that oppertunity then the dog is less likely to respond. It boils my pee when you see someone walking towards you and their dog goes into and well beyond the precursor before they even think about a recall. The old saying of "It is easier to stop a horse from bolting than stop a bolting horse" springs to mind. 

And yes, some dogs aren't wired up right. My last two before this little terrorier were dreams to handle. I'm paying the price for it now. 

[foxdropper 17,092]

8 hours ago, downsouth said:

Ive had the odd one find in unexpected places over the years and just dealt with it when it happened.Couldnt think of nothing worse than constantly having to keep them on leads.Ive seen more problems with dogs that are never allowed any freedom as if they ever do get loose theres no way they're gunna come back.Also seen more false making with this type of dog as well and Im sure they see it as a way of getting let loose.Id much rather allow my dogs a bit of freedom within reason especially when they're pups to allow them to develop a brain.

Don’t get me wrong mate .Some of the most epic digs have been to a terrier in place run to off lead but times are changing ,have changed to the point lads need to be in charge of where and when .Pups totally different but running a small pack of entered terriers off lead no matter the recall instilled is just asking for disaster .

[downsouth 6,836]

12 hours ago, foxdropper said:

Don’t get me wrong mate .Some of the most epic digs have been to a terrier in place run to off lead but times are changing ,have changed to the point lads need to be in charge of where and when .Pups totally different but running a small pack of entered terriers off lead no matter the recall instilled is just asking for disaster .

Suppose thats where Ive been luck over the years that Ive never felt the need to have a pack of entered terriers.2 decent dogs that are working has always been plenty for the ammount of work I could give them especially as Id normally be out with a mate or 2 that had dogs to work as well.If I was out on an estate looking to work them I wouldnt let them run free but Id want to be able to let them off on general daily exercise.I suppose thats why Ive never got on with anything that I haven't reared myself and put manners on right from a pup

[foxdropper 17,092]

You are confusing work with exercise mate .At one time I had 7 entered terriers that all needed a run out .

I very rarely took  more than two out digging .

[Bangersanmash 2,374]

On 26/11/2022 at 09:08, W. Katchum said:

Some terriers are just cnuts. But by sounds of it that dog missed a lot of education at an early age, but saying that even some out an about from the nest still turn out pure wnakers

Jackal an Hyde comes into mind. But it's true you can put all the time in educating a young pup bringing it on with the commands an lead work. But once out working its a different way of educating your young dogs. You find  it will just do its own thing for a couple of months till it finds its feet an settles down . But we all know more outings an quarry that the young dog sees ,  more it will come on. Some though like you say are just too head strong an I find it depends too if your have the young dog round other dogs that are c**ts picking up bad habits so all that hard work on getting the dog to listen to you is out of the window if your round lads who've got no control of there dogs an yours is just following pursuit lol. I find alot will run a pup on with an older dog which is great if the older dog is a steady dog an knows its rights an wrongs . But sometimes it can go wrong. You'll find there shouting at the pup then at the older dog. The dogs pick up the vibes off the owner then its f****d up.