Conspiracy

[Francie 6,368]

2 minutes ago, Ken's Deputy said:

I've no idea what that expression even means.

Yes, or no?

It mean to take the piss ken lol

[Francie 6,368]

@chartpolski does your family live close to the three new temples built recently,three beside one another,Jewish,Muslim,an Christian?

 

[mushroom 14,100]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Not even the various Christian churches and denominations interpret Revelations the same, and some Eastern Orthodox Christian churches reject it completely.

There is no theological agreemement as to who wrote it and when.

You have your faith, I respect that, I lost whatever little faith I had some years ago.

Cheers.

See this always makes me chuckle. Native Arab speakers can’t agree what certain texts mean written in yep Arabic, same with the Jews and the Tora both have been arguing about it for 1000’s of years. So how the bugger can someone believe a book translated from multiple languages into a completely non related language, by hundreds of people, over hundreds of years. Then translated again from those texts into English (king James bible), another completely non related language 1500 years later? None of the translations ever, East, West, Latin, Greek etc have ever even had a complete revision of all original texts, most of which were written in dead languages by the time of the council of Nicaea.
 

A council of men loving their position of power over the masses, who fuucking decided what was going into the book of control anyway 

[chartpolski 28,007]

Just now, Francie said:

@chartpolski does your family live close to the three new temples built recently,three beside one another,Jewish,Muslim,an Christian?

 

Where is that, Francie ?

Cheers.

[Ken's Deputy 4,462]

4 minutes ago, Francie said:

It mean to take the piss ken lol

Thank you. No.

Have you ever been the front  end of a pantomime ass?

Just to clarify; That means, " Have you ever been the front  end of a pantomime ass? ".

[chartpolski 28,007]

1 minute ago, mushroom said:

See this always makes me chuckle. Native Arab speakers can’t agree what certain texts mean written in yep Arabic, same with the Jews and the Tora both have been arguing about it for 1000’s of years. So how the bugger can someone believe a book translated from multiple languages into a completely non related language, by hundreds of people, over hundreds of years. Then translated again from those texts into English (king James bible), another completely non related language 1500 years later? None of the translations ever, East, West, Latin, Greek etc have ever even had a complete revision of all original texts, most of which were written in dead languages by the time of the council of Nicaea.
 

A council of men loving their position of power over the masses, who fuucking decided what was going into the book of control anyway 

I'm no theologian, but wasn't the construction of the bible decided by vote at the Council of Nicea ?

Some books , like Mathew and Luke, made the cut, but others such as Enoch and Ruth didn't .

Cheers.

[WILF 50,303]

1 minute ago, mushroom said:

See this always makes me chuckle. Native Arab speakers can’t agree what certain texts mean written in yep Arabic, same with the Jews and the Tora both have been arguing about it for 1000’s of years. So how the bugger can someone believe a book translated from multiple languages into a completely non related language, by hundreds of people, over hundreds of years. Then translated again from those texts into English (king James bible), another completely non related language 1500 years later? None of the translations ever, East, West, Latin, Greek etc have ever even had a complete revision of all original texts, most of which were written in dead languages by the time of the council of Nicaea.
 

A council of men loving their position of power over the masses, who fuucking decided what was going into the book of control anyway 

It’s don’t quiet work like that I believe mate.

Some take scripture as god breathed and that’s totally their right to do so, it’s living as close to book as possible really.

However, some theologians will tell you that it’s just different passages written be different people and is there to be interpreted……a catholic priest, a very clever and well educated catholic priest at that, told me this.

I think it’s somewhere in between.

Who knows where inspiration to write down deep and meaningful stuff comes from…..I don’t, I just know it exists because human beings do it every day. 

[Born Hunter 17,910]

48 minutes ago, Francie said:

Considering the chip technology an getting it in the hand an you can buy an sell with it,then yes its partly proven,an I'm confident that the rest will be fulfilled.

People getting swallows tattooed on their hands is as much proof! It’s so far below proof.

[mushroom 14,100]

2 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I'm no theologian, but wasn't the construction of the bible decided by vote at the Council of Nicea ?

Some books , like Mathew and Luke, made the cut, but others such as Enoch and Ruth didn't .

Cheers.

Bingo mate

Books, texts, letters, correspondence, legal recordings from the period and all manner of scripture was basically cast aside, left out and what fit the created narrative was left in. 

[WILF 50,303]

2 minutes ago, mushroom said:

Bingo mate

Books, texts, letters, correspondence, legal recordings from the period and all manner of scripture was basically cast aside, left out and what fit the created narrative was left in. 

Men seeing an opportunity and hijacking something good and reworking it to suit themselves is hardly surprising is it mate, it’s don’t  mean the thing they hijacked is false or irrelevant imho.

This is always the confusion between faith and organised religion, one thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other imho.

[mushroom 14,100]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

It’s don’t quiet work like that I believe mate.

Some take scripture as god breathed and that’s totally their right to do so, it’s living as close to book as possible really.

However, some theologians will tell you that it’s just different passages written be different people and is there to be interpreted……a catholic priest, a very clever and well educated catholic priest at that, told me this.

I think it’s somewhere in between.

Who knows where inspiration to write down deep and meaningful stuff comes from…..I don’t, I just know it exists because human beings do it every day. 

If I rewrote Harry Potter in Spanish, left half the story out and then got a random French bloke to translate into Latin and then a Greek to put it back to English, would it be worth reading in comparison to the original? That’s exactly what these men did and more importantly, they had something very real to gain from putting what served the narrative and kept control of the masses.

 

[Francie 6,368]

7 minutes ago, mushroom said:

Bingo mate

Books, texts, letters, correspondence, legal recordings from the period and all manner of scripture was basically cast aside, left out and what fit the created narrative was left in. 

If men changed things to suit there agenda doesn't take away the fact that it was still wrote down mush.

[Francie 6,368]

1 minute ago, mushroom said:

If I rewrote Harry Potter in Spanish, left half the story out and then got a random French bloke to translate into Latin and then a Greek to put it back to English, would it be worth reading in comparison to the original? That’s exactly what these men did and more importantly, they had something very real to gain from putting what served the narrative and kept control of the masses.

 

So are you saying mush that something cannot be translated from one language to another?

 

[Francie 6,368]

21 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Where is that, Francie ?

Cheers.

I thinks it's the UAE charts

[Francie 6,368]

3 minutes ago, mushroom said:

If I rewrote Harry Potter in Spanish, left half the story out and then got a random French bloke to translate into Latin and then a Greek to put it back to English, would it be worth reading in comparison to the original? That’s exactly what these men did and more importantly, they had something very real to gain from putting what served the narrative and kept control of the masses.

 

But can you prove that mush,im sure they could be put side by side an checked,an I think it has already,if they weren't included then they must not of thought that it was inspired by God.