jukel123 6,772 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) Is it going to kick off? What's the ramifications going to be? Does Putin have a point when he complains about NATO provocation? Anybody care to explain what is really going on underneath the spin? Edited January 15, 2022 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,632 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: Is it going to kick off? What's the ramifications going to be? Does Putin have a point when he complains about NATO provocation? Anybody care to explain what is really going on underneath the spin? I don’t know what’s going on underneath but I think Vlad is absolutely justified in wanting a buffer zone between Russia and the EU. The EU are an expansionist organisation and Putin knows it. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 20,738 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 The EU want the Ukraine to join,the Russians don't , couldn't put it any simpler. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,772 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 Surely, as an independent country, Ukraine can make its own decisions without threats from Russia. Or is it not so simple as that ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,385 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Surely, as an independent country, Ukraine can make its own decisions without threats from Russia. Or is it not so simple as that ? Biden knows Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,632 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: Surely, as an independent country, Ukraine can make its own decisions without threats from Russia. Or is it not so simple as that ? So could Cuba but WW3 nearly happened because the yanks wouldn’t stand for Russian missiles on their doorstep……same story, Russia won’t stand for the EU check book on their doorstep, next thing you know the EU will be pumping money into the Ukraine to make it look like a wonderland, destabilising Russia and next stop…..all Russia’s massive mineral wealth, which imho is really what it’s all about and what the EU have their greedy eyes on. Edited January 15, 2022 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,772 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, WILF said: So could Cuba but WW3 nearly happened because the yanks wouldn’t stand for Russian missiles on their doorstep……same story, Russia won’t stand for the EU check book on their doorstep, next thing you know the EU will be pumping money into the Ukraine to make it look like a wonderland, destabilising Russia and next stop…..all Russia’s massive mineral wealth, which imho is really what it’s all about and what the EU have their greedy eyes on. Sounds plausible. Maybe it will depend on how bullish the states will prove if theres a war between Ukraine and Russia. Would they stick at arming the ukes and economic sanctions or would they put boots etc on the ground. Scary stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,632 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Sounds plausible. Maybe it will depend on how bullish the states will prove if theres a war between Ukraine and Russia. Would they stick at arming the ukes and economic sanctions or would they put boots etc on the ground. Scary stuff. If we want to picks fights then let’s pick one with the real danger, the chinks ! We should be wiping those horrible little c**ts off the face of the earth ! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,772 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, WILF said: If we want to picks fights then let’s pick one with the real danger, the chinks ! We should be wiping those horrible little c**ts off the face of the earth ! Think that opportunity has gone. China is too powerful. The yanks got a hiding from the Viet Cong and the Taliban. They only had will power and AK 47s. The chinks are increasing their financial and military power all the time. Don't think the yanks have got the balls to mess China. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 697 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 America has 750 military bases in countries. Russia has 21 military bases abroad. China has 1 military base abroad. It wasn't Russia or China that has been invading countries and overthrowing governments around the world the last 20 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,632 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, paul sr said: America has 750 military bases in countries. Russia has 21 military bases abroad. China has 1 military base abroad. It wasn't Russia or China that has been invading countries and overthrowing governments around the world the last 20 years. True, but we ain’t chinks so they can get f****d for a start. The Russian thing is different imho, the Russian know they are fighting an EU ideology that has harmed us all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 10,667 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 4 hours ago, WILF said: So could Cuba but WW3 nearly happened because the yanks wouldn’t stand for Russian missiles on their doorstep……same story, Russia won’t stand for the EU check book on their doorstep, next thing you know the EU will be pumping money into the Ukraine to make it look like a wonderland, destabilising Russia and next stop…..all Russia’s massive mineral wealth, which imho is really what it’s all about and what the EU have their greedy eyes on. russia know that usa will put missles there the same as cuba once russia is surrounded with missiles on its doorstep which it nearly is it cant send any without been intercepted basically usa have them surrounded with there missiles and they can bomb russia with ease 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 10,667 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, WILF said: True, but we ain’t chinks so they can get f****d for a start. The Russian thing is different imho, verywere the Russian know they are fighting an EU ideology that has harmed us all. the yanks are the worse take the piss everywere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,632 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: the yanks are the worse take the piss everywere I’m right behind old Putin, don’t blame him in the slightest. As said, the chinks can go f**k themselves 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 10,667 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, WILF said: I’m right behind old Putin, don’t blame him in the slightest. As said, the chinks can go f**k themselves 2 minutes ago, WILF said: I’m right behind old Putin, don’t blame him in the slightest. As said, the chinks can go f**k themselves the last strong sensible white man on earth in power isnt he mate i cant fault him 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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