Born Hunter 17,907 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, Francie said: Ok well how did natural selection select the fox to be red an the fox to be white? Envoirment you might say,but if the fox moved to a new envoirment,by your own logic it wouldn't survive lol Yes environment most likely. Sexual selection can be responsible for this too but in this instance I agree it was likely environment. No, you're misunderstanding natural selection. Adaptation couldn't happen if everything died off could it. If you took red foxes and released them in the arctic it's likely that lighter colours would be advantageous and so the arctic red foxes would all become lighter due to the ones with lighter mutations being more successful at passing on their genetics. But there's a lot of factors at play there, that environment would pressure the fox in all sorts of evolutionary ways. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Francie said: If there lingered or interbred why not? So which ancestor will they take colours from? How far ye goin back? Would the pomeranian colours go back to the doberman colours? Mate this is getting ridiculous now. We're speaking different languages. If you can throw BACK to your cousin who ain't your parent or grandparent or grt grandparent then I don't know what sort of breeding programs you guys are running. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Mate this is getting ridiculous now. We're speaking different languages. If you can throw BACK to your cousin who ain't your parent or grandparent or grt grandparent then I don't know what sort of breeding programs you guys are running. Lol By throwback,I mean there going to look like one another. Lol but sure your saying all animal plants an humans are related,so why not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Are you not saying by supporting evoloution that the fox an us are related long ago an far away? If my cousin looks like me,its cause the family tree? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 I still dont get why foxes that are cousins cant throw the same colours mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Francie said: Are you not saying by supporting evoloution that the fox an us are related long ago an far away? What does that have to do with this thread? We were discussing why white red foxes exist in red fox populations. No one, especially me, have claimed it came from f***ing humans! Haha Francie, I don't want to waste my time discussing evolution theory with someone who's only objective is to prove creationism. Just leave it be. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Francie said: I still dont get why foxes that are cousins cant throw the same colours mate? I never said they couldn't. I said they don't throw BACK to each other. If cousins share a trait then it came from a common ancestor, a grand parent etc that they share. One cousin didn't pass the trait to the other, they were both passed it by a grand parent, which is what throw back means. Edited February 6, 2021 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Born Hunter said: I never said they couldn't. I said they don't throw BACK to each other. If cousins share a trait then it came from a common ancestor, a grand parent etc that hey share. One cousin didn't give the trait to the other, which is what throw back means. Ok well I worded it wrong born. My point is if the two foxes share a common ancestor,why is it surprising they throw different colours? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: What does that have to do with this thread? We were discussing why white red foxes exist in red fox populations. No one, especially me, have claimed it came from f***ing humans! Haha Francie, I don't want to waste my time discussing evolution theory with someone who's only objective is to prove creationism. Just leave it be. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Francie said: Ok well I worded it wrong born. My point is if the two foxes share a common ancestor,why is it surprising they throw different colours? Again, I never said I was surprised. I honestly don't know where you got that from. I don't know what the problem is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Again, I never said I was surprised. I honestly don't know where you got that from. I don't know what the problem is? There is no problem born lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,236 Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Been away for a few days and it’s still going it’s like father ted trying to explain the difference between a small cow and a cow far away to Dougal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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