Black history month

[WILF 44,334]

Just now, ginger beard said:

I listen to what you and other put on threads about race and agree with pretty much all of it.i’ve been seeing it for 30 years in my town.

would you not say you care for everybody but those closest to home first or f**k everybody except White Europeans.?

and to you @WILF

I don’t “care” about anybody that’s not mine, I don’t have any affinity to them.

I don’t know them and I don’t care to know them, there nothing in it for any of us.

All I do know is that when they force us together it lowers the bar for us.

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3 hours ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said:

I don't know about you lads but I'm really excited about subscribing to the 'New YouTubeblack'??lol

 

I don't know how they gèt away with it , if it was displayed as YouTube white it would be racist ,  double standards as always.

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3 minutes ago, WILF said:

I don’t “care” about anybody that’s not mine, I don’t have any affinity to them.

I don’t know them and I don’t care to know them, there nothing in it for any of us.

All I do know is that when they force us together it lowers the bar for us.

I tend to agree about “who’s not mine”.this blm and all lives matter got me thinking.always a bad idea.

i care for all my family and friends.i got 1 black who I would call a mate and there kids,wives,parents etc but I couldn’t give a toss about any relatives further than that and I don’t expect them to care about members of my family they don’t know.so

would you save a life of somebody black you know (we all have dealing with them and even like some of them) for the life of somebody white who you don’t know.?

 

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28 minutes ago, ginger beard said:

I tend to agree about “who’s not mine”.this blm and all lives matter got me thinking.always a bad idea.

i care for all my family and friends.i got 1 black who I would call a mate and there kids,wives,parents etc but I couldn’t give a toss about any relatives further than that and I don’t expect them to care about members of my family they don’t know.so

Fair enough 

28 minutes ago, ginger beard said:

would you save a life of somebody black you know (we all have dealing with them and even like some of them) for the life of somebody white who you don’t know.?

 

It’s a completely unrealistic scenario mate but I’d like to think I’d help anyone if I was on the spot at the time and it was in my power to help them.......thinking that blacks don’t belong in Europe and holding a belief that having them here is to everyone’s detriment is no barrier to acting like a proper human being and generally behaving like a proper chap.

Im not an animal

 

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4 hours ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said:

I don't know about you lads but I'm really excited about subscribing to the 'New YouTubeblack'??lol

 

I’ve literally just been on a group chat on WhatsApp with a couple of mates going on about that . Can’t even get rid of the ad like you normally can either . 

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1 hour ago, WILF said:

I can’t answer for Gnasher but for the sake of a chat I can answer for me.

When talking about “Black History Month” or Blacks in Europe what we are mostly talking about are Africans.

You never see an image of an Asian or an Indian or a Sikh, it’s always an African or some close derivative.

So, imho compared to your common or garden African white folks are cognitively far superior in every single way, period ! 
 

As a group we have taken human achievement to ever greater heights......that is absolutely without question.
 

Asians and Arabs can also be recognised for their contribution to mankind but your African never contributed a thing, ever......he didn’t know how to even think up the thing to contribute.

To compare modern day Europeans to Africans is a comparison between the modern world and the Stone Age, we gain absolutely nothing from these people and I’m sure being forced together with us is as hellish and experience for them as it is for us generally speaking.

Im not angry about it, I don’t hate anyone, I just see what I see and what is obvious.

One question, for interest? Have you been to Africa much?

Funnily enough there are a lot of things I agree with you on wilf.

However, I just cannot ever except that every whites person is superior to every black person ........ just by dint of birth and genetics. 
 

Have you met some of our indigenous people?

What I noticed when I used to work in inner city shit holes with the lowest groups in society ........the parallels could be largely drawn by class and social grouping and not race ...... so the little black gang banging scum running about were just modelled upon the little white gang banging scum, who had been doing it for ages. Just as the more educated, better brought up black kids (in this particular case Somalis) achieved just as well as their white peers of similar social background. 
 

I did masses and masses of very in-depth research (past life of mine) and every single bit led to the fact that it was far far more to do with an imposed ‘class system’ than racial categorisation.

Just a final note - I really like the way that despite the fact you have very strong opinions which are very different than mine - I don’t believe you’ve ever sneered, called names or said anything you couldn’t at least back up with argument. 
 

I enjoy debating with you! 

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1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

Not if you dont want to no.............im not angry,my anger passed years ago.

 

For sake of not avoiding the question....yes probably.....but in all honesty i dont care too much for other races i only care about my own race and nation.....its how being a nationalist works.

Thank you for your answer mate.  

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1 hour ago, ginger beard said:

I listen to what you and other put on threads about race and agree with pretty much all of it.i’ve been seeing it for 30 years in my town.

would you not say you care for everybody but those closest to home first or f**k everybody except White Europeans.?

and to you @WILF

I wouldnt say i " dont care " for blacks on an individual level mate that would be too strong.....i dont like to see starving kids or cruelty any different to the next man doesnt,but they are not my responsibility im a community person we should look after our own.....for reasons i dont particularly want to go into,there are a couple of black lads ive known many years who i have the absolute utmost respect and admiration for....on a man to man basis i respect them more than perhaps any white man ive ever known and believe the feeling is mutual.... but we dont like each other..........however as a group,which when you are talking about entire races of people you must look at the group and not the individual.....no i dont care for them at all....i acknowledge racial instinct and am a loyal person.....so why would i  " care " for people who are not my own.

Allow me to swing the question back at you Ginge ?.....i accept im probably a bit too strong on the subject for many but how about yourself someone who is perhaps not quite as rigid in their opinion....whats yours mate ?

Edited October 30, 2020 by gnasher16

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1 hour ago, king said:

Having lived in london all your life gnasher what was the subculture of the skinheads like in london.and do they still exist.

I think the whole skinhead thing was pathetic and was a complete embarrassment to lads like myself....it also put a target on the back of every true nationalist in the country.....i have no real issue with them as a " subculture " as they were about a lot more than just far right politics.....but they should never have been attached to the far right in the first place.

Whether they exist today i dont know or care mate quite frankly....not to be too abrupt like 

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1 minute ago, gnasher16 said:

I think the whole skinhead thing was pathetic and was a complete embarrassment to lads like myself....it also put a target on the back of every true nationalist in the country.....i have no real issue with them as a " subculture " as they were about a lot more than just far right politics.....but they should never have been attached to the far right in the first place.

Whether they exist today i dont know or care mate quite frankly....not to be too abrupt like 

That's fair enough mate

[WILF 44,334]

53 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

One question, for interest? Have you been to Africa much?

Funnily enough there are a lot of things I agree with you on wilf.

However, I just cannot ever except that every whites person is superior to every black person ........ just by dint of birth and genetics. 
 

Have you met some of our indigenous people?

What I noticed when I used to work in inner city shit holes with the lowest groups in society ........the parallels could be largely drawn by class and social grouping and not race ...... so the little black gang banging scum running about were just modelled upon the little white gang banging scum, who had been doing it for ages. Just as the more educated, better brought up black kids (in this particular case Somalis) achieved just as well as their white peers of similar social background. 
 

I did masses and masses of very in-depth research (past life of mine) and every single bit led to the fact that it was far far more to do with an imposed ‘class system’ than racial categorisation.

Just a final note - I really like the way that despite the fact you have very strong opinions which are very different than mine - I don’t believe you’ve ever sneered, called names or said anything you couldn’t at least back up with argument. 
 

I enjoy debating with you! 

First off, thank you, you are very kind.

No mate, I have never been to Africa.

I have good friends who have spent a lot of time in Africa but I have no personal experience above and beyond what most people have, that being the news, media and literature etc etc 

The first thing that struck me in your reply was that there seems to be a confusion between the individual and the group.

If we are talking about individuals then yes, I am aware that utter scumbags come in all shades.

Yes I know and have met individual black people who I got along with, met the spouse of great lads who were in mixed race relationships and their wives and children were as lovely people as you could ever wish to meet.

Does that mean I should then disregard the group effect on my towns, city’s, country, continent ?

You can point to poverty in European society as a reason for blacks predisposition to crime and all manner of nonsense but in fairness they have always been “poor” because they don’t have the collective ability to be “rich”......their continent is one of the richest holders of natural resources on earth, they have been there for 300,000 years or something ? And it’s still a toilet ! 
 

Class has no more to do with anything than it always did in inner city areas, we have always had criminal elements but here is the crux, they were “ours”.......I don’t see the logic in importing a load more people who are even worse and adding insult to injury.
 

We are declining in our own land and promoting the black man when the white man is dying out seem like madness......if we were dolphins or elephants or some type of bird there would be a campaign to preserve and increase us, not a campaign to erase us as there is now.

Theres one universal fact, people are different......they are different from county to county, city to city, country to country and race to race.......

If these people were on par with Europeans then Africa would be the most advanced nation on the planet......but it’s wrecked !, majestic and awesome in its wild places but wrecked in all other respects 

Why do we want to import and embrace that ? 
 

The individual is not the group but they make up the group   

Edited October 30, 2020 by WILF

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Beautifully put....if i could articulate myself as well as Wilf can i might not have this hooter spread all across my boat race 

[ginger beard 4,652]

I hope this doesn’t get people’s backs up.i tried to put it like a debate but I can’t say it like some do.

It’s something I do and I think we all do.we come on here and bash the f**k out of  pakis and niggers but when we’re in their company or dealing with them,were totally respectful.

i’m guessing you both deal with them regularly or have at some point

i only live in a smallish market town so never grew up with them.i 1st black person I actually talked to was last year in Norway and he’s one of the boys.also got chatting to Somalian Muslims and they were sound.i only see them for 4 months but I actually socialise with the black.i noticed in my town it’s all getting a bit uncomfortable but I actually quite like a few of the polish.basically I don’t want them or blacks but I quite like some.

when do your principles become double standards.? If that makes sense.? Like you don’t want them here but your more than happy to deal with them.! 

Not an argument but want to hear your views.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, ginger beard said:

I hope this doesn’t get people’s backs up.i tried to put it like a debate but I can’t say it like some do.

It’s something I do and I think we all do.we come on here and bash the f**k out of  pakis and niggers but when we’re in their company or dealing with them,were totally respectful.

i’m guessing you both deal with them regularly or have at some point

i only live in a smallish market town so never grew up with them.i 1st black person I actually talked to was last year in Norway and he’s one of the boys.also got chatting to Somalian Muslims and they were sound.i only see them for 4 months but I actually socialise with the black.i noticed in my town it’s all getting a bit uncomfortable but I actually quite like a few of the polish.basically I don’t want them or blacks but I quite like some.

when do your principles become double standards.? If that makes sense.? Like you don’t want them here but your more than happy to deal with them.! 

Not an argument but want to hear your views.

 

 

I think that’s a fair enough point.

So, for a start I don’t socialise with ethnics, they were just never in my social circle and I had no desire to be in places they frequent.

I dealt with loads of Africans because I used to sell them stuff to load in their containers that they were shipping back to Africa, same with Indians and Pakistanis.

Their pound note is the same colour as your pound note, they were on my premises and behaved to my rules.....any bollocks and they were out !

That rule applied to white people too so it wasn’t a racial thing but you definitely have to deal with them differently than you do white people.

For the most part they were very nice, one bloke even invited me to Cameroon, all expenses paid, he was going to lay on a driver/security bloke and give me full use of his house......said I could stay as long as I liked and he would make sure I had a good time.

Totally genuine offer from a totally genuine bloke.

Almost to a man none of them were pretending to be “British” or in any way invested in the country, they just wanted to exploit the gaff and made no secret of it.....had their old woman and kids plotted up in a flat in Peckham or where ever on the council, leave them all there while the kids got an education and the blokes themselves just lived like playboys between the UK and Africa.
 

They are here, it’s a reality, they are doing business and so was I.

Id just as happily see them all shipped home tomorrow but that isn’t going to happen is it.

I don’t see any conflict between relieving them of their money and thinking I should matter most in my own land.

They wasn’t pretending and I wasn’t pretending.

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, WILF said:

I think that’s a fair enough point.

So, for a start I don’t socialise with ethnics, they were just never in my social circle and I had no desire to be in places they frequent.

I dealt with loads of Africans because I used to sell them stuff to load in their containers that they were shipping back to Africa, same with Indians and Pakistanis.

Their pound note is the same colour as your pound note, they were on my premises and behaved to my rules.....any bollocks and they were out !

That rule applied to white people too so it wasn’t a racial thing but you definitely have to deal with them differently than you do white people.

For the most part they were very nice, one bloke even invited me to Cameroon, all expenses paid, he was going to lay on a driver/security bloke and give me full use of his house......said I could stay as long as I liked and he would make sure I had a good time.

Totally genuine offer from a totally genuine bloke.

Almost to a man none of them were pretending to be “British” or in any way invested in the country, they just wanted to exploit the gaff and made no secret of it.....had their old woman and kids plotted up in a flat in Peckham or where ever on the council, leave them all there while the kids got an education and the blokes themselves just lived like playboys between the UK and Africa.
 

They are here, it’s a reality, they are doing business and so was I.

Id just as happily see them all shipped home tomorrow but that isn’t going to happen is it.

I don’t see any conflict between relieving them of their money and thinking I should matter most in my own land.

They wasn’t pretending and I wasn’t pretending.

 

 

 

And i’m guessing to behaved by their rules at their place but I never asked about that but it sort of does prove the point I was trying to make.

you dealt with loads of Africans so presumably they were helping your business and paying your mortgage,kids shoes and all the trappings.so in a direct way you relied upon them to some extent.

isnt it a bit like a conflict of interest. Going against your principles or don’t you see it like that.?