Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, king said: It's not for me to say to be honest. It is what it is. With all due respect it is for you to say mate! There is nothing wrong in saying you want this country to be better than it is imo but don’t be blinded as to why it is what it is. We all say the country is f****d yet just carry on paying 20% of our wages towards it so I’d definitely say it’s for you/me/everyone to have our say tbh. I guess I’m trying to say being English, Welsh, Scottish or northern Irish is down to where your born, your heritage and your roots......being British is whole different cup of tea that you have a choice about being part of or want nothing to do with.......maybe I see it wrong but that’s just my take on it tbh 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,909 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stoney100 said: I guess I’m trying to say being English, Welsh, Scottish or northern Irish is down to where your born, your heritage and your roots......being British is whole different cup of tea that you have a choice about being part of or want nothing to do with.......maybe I see it wrong but that’s just my take on it tbh Nah mate you're right, even the Gov agree with you. English, Welsh, Irish, Scottish along with Cornish and another one I forget are officially recognised ethnicities. British is the recognised nationality. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Nah mate you're right, even the Gov agree with you. English, Welsh, Irish, Scottish along with Cornish and another one I forget are officially recognised ethnicities. British is the recognised nationality. Lol the good old gov site! Reading through that site is scary! But that’s what I mean, how can we be proud of something that anyone in the world can simply apply for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,909 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stoney100 said: Lol the good old gov site! Reading through that site is scary! But that’s what I mean, how can we be proud of something that anyone in the world can simply apply for? Conversely, how can you be proud of something that you had no choice over? ie your ethnicity. We all contribute to this nation and our ethnic culture. I suppose in that respect you can either be proud or disappointed of either? Regarding migration, I don't see a problem with anyone being able to apply. It's the acceptance criteria and ultimate objective of migration policy I think is where the problem lies. Going off on a tangent here but the definition of your ethnicity is way blurrier than your nationality. I mean, who decides that? LOL. You just kinda self identify, right? It's such a multifaceted thing, ethnicity. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Like I say maybe I’m wrong, but that is one thing I must admit I miss about this site, obviously my long post wasn’t thought of at 3am in one go lol it is something I think about quite a lot tbh as it’s something i see quite a lot of! There are some areas of Leicester and Birmingham that are literally india or Pakistan now, Melton road in Leicester for one, but that said if you go down these areas (I work down Melton raps quite a bit) the people are just going about there business, doing their thing and living life like it’s there own country.......I just can’t help but think if we left them alone they would of been happier doing it back home and so would we! Obviously I understand times were completely different back then, but the fact is we tried to give them a better life by our own standards when they were probably quite content with what they had and just wanted to be left alone in peace 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,736 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 We were told we needed the Windrush mob, we didn’t ! Normally, have a look at who’s is benefitting from this shit and you will find who is pushing the agenda. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Conversely, how can you be proud of something that you had no choice over? ie your ethnicity. We all contribute to this nation and our ethnic culture. I suppose in that respect you can either be proud or disappointed of either? Regarding migration, I don't see a problem with anyone being able to apply. It's the acceptance criteria and ultimate objective of migration policy I think is where the problem lies. Going off on a tangent here but the definition of your ethnicity is way blurrier than your nationality. I mean, who decides that? LOL. You just kinda self identify, right? It's such a multifaceted thing, ethnicity. Lol that’s a different spin tbf but you have a valid point, however I would say if your a good few gens down your pedigree in england it’s fair to say you can be proud of the English team getting to the semis of the World Cup last year lol but yeah your right, if we all trace our roots back we could be from anywhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,736 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Stoney100 said: It is nice tbf, cheap and an anti is a rare thing to find never mind a Muslim lol That Orban is a bit of a legend in my book mate, £27k starter loan at low interest for young Hungarian families, then written off on the birth of your 4th child and your family taken out of the tax system! No imported shit required ! Thats how you build your own back up again. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,909 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, WILF said: We were told we needed the Windrush mob, we didn’t ! Normally, have a look at who’s is benefitting from this shit and you will find who is pushing the agenda. Economic growth! We (nations) are all competing for economic dominance and GDP is the measure of that. As soon as GDP flat lines investment stops and all sorts of bad shit is waiting around the corner. Two mechanism for growth, increase resources or improve your systems through innovation. The later is a slow burner, the former is quick and easy and involves population growth (labour is a resource). Hence migration.... See why I can't escape from this belief that it's all just f***ing inevitable (long term), mate? lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,909 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 minute ago, baker boy said: Cant we have some ethnic fluidity, I want to identify as a nig nog in work so I can hang about doing fcuk all like the rest of the b*****ds I don't see why not. I mean we have chicks with dicks protected as such by law! It's all just a 'social construct', right? LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,736 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Economic growth! We (nations) are all competing for economic dominance and GDP is the measure of that. As soon as GDP flat lines investment stops and all sorts of bad shit is waiting around the corner. Two mechanism for growth, increase resources or improve your systems through innovation. The later is a slow burner, the former is quick and easy and involves population growth (labour is a resource). Hence migration.... See why I can't escape from this belief that it's all just f***ing inevitable (long term), mate? lol Ahh, but this is where we part ways mate......I think the UK could do with being a lot smaller and a lot poorer. Our massive wealth and economic standing has turned the whole gaff into a toilet. Yes, everyone has £400,000 houses and an Audi but it’s like having the best house in Beirut in some areas. One of the reasons I moved, if they ain’t going to f**k off (and they ain’t !) then I will because I don’t want to live amongst that shit. We value nothing, we are a whore to GDP. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,822 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: I don't see why not. I mean we have chicks with dicks protected as such by law! It's all just a 'social construct', right? LOL I identify as a leopard 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, WILF said: That Orban is a bit of a legend in my book mate, £27k starter loan at low interest for young Hungarian families, then written off on the birth of your 4th child and your family taken out of the tax system! No imported shit required ! Thats how you build your own back up again. Tbh I’d never heard about that loan, but 27k to your average Hungarian family is basically setting them up for life! Different way of life over there to, i stayed in a small town called tapiosczhcho for a week with a mate of mine from hungary who married his missis over there. The wedding reception was absolute madness, the whole village came out for a party and my mate said he had never met 3/4 of the people there before in his but it was like they had all known him for years! He must of made a grand easy in the money people were giving him lol one thing I would love to do over there is go coursing with the romanian gypsies, I seen i few of the dogs (agars) they have and they look some animals! I remember when we could do that over here, seems such along time ago now but at least all our pubs have been converted in to Indian takeaways lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,736 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Stoney100 said: Tbh I’d never heard about that loan, but 27k to your average Hungarian family is basically setting them up for life! Different way of life over there to, i stayed in a small town called tapiosczhcho for a week with a mate of mine from hungary who married his missis over there. The wedding reception was absolute madness, the whole village came out for a party and my mate said he had never met 3/4 of the people there before in his but it was like they had all known him for years! He must of made a grand easy in the money people were giving him lol one thing I would love to do over there is go coursing with the romanian gypsies, I seen i few of the dogs (agars) they have and they look some animals! I remember when we could do that over here, seems such along time ago now but at least all our pubs have been converted in to Indian takeaways lol Bingo !.......there you have it. People living like people not like a bunch of strange anaimals. I love all that turnout mate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, WILF said: Bingo !.......there you have it. People living like people not like a bunch of strange anaimals. I love all that turnout mate. I can definitely see why you moved away from it all, my problem is I can see I’m out of here soon, in dream land I’d sell everything I own and go to Phuket, rent a tidy little apartment near a beach for under 3k a year and make money doing matched betting online, the national minimum wage in Thailand is £240 a month and in 5 weeks there in January I made just under £300 doing the matched betting and I was only doing once or twice a week so doing it full time I could probably make £600 a month, pay my rent, fill up my scooter and live like a king over there......realistically what’s £600 a month going to get you over here? You need that a week to live half decent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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