Born Hunter 17,909 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, WILF said: And yet, we have just destroyed Syria.......and we will be moaning like f**k about those people coming to the British Isles. If we want to keep poking our nose in then we either do it with a “f**k you” attitude or we suffer the fall out.......or we stop voting for the pricks that are doing it. Im not ashamed we wiped a load of fuzzy wuzzys off the face of the earth, I personally couldn’t give a f**k......but I’m realistic about the consequences given the system we live under. I think Syria is the only one we actually stayed out of. And yet it turned into the biggest disaster! I agree with the rest though. Re sticking our noses in; I really don't think it's as simple as 'just stay out of it'. Humans can't help themselves but compete, on individual levels, on tribal levels and now on national levels. If we decide to not play the game it doesn't mean we are free of the consequences or indeed that there are not consequences of the very act of not playing. It's f***ing complicated! LOL. I'm not strictly decided on one way or the other. What I'm saying is, this interfering bollocks is an inevitability that is a result of what made us such a successful species in the first place, our competitiveness. Edited April 5, 2019 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,732 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) Globalism demands war, globalism demands importing low paid workers on the pretence of humanitarianism. So its nationalism, it’s getting smaller and maybe having a bit less or we live with it and suck it up.......you can’t have it all ways round. JMHO Edited April 5, 2019 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,909 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, WILF said: Globalism demands war, globalism demands importing low paid workers on the pretence of humanitarianism. So its nationalism, it’s getting smaller and maybe having a bit less or we live with it and suck it up.......you can’t have it all ways round. JMHO I've come to the conclusion I just don't think it's a choice mate. It's our nature to compete and grow. For literally thousands of years empires (globalism) have grown and collapsed back into tribes (nations). Meanwhile technology continues to progress and the geographical and cultural barriers that are necessary for the development of unique tribes (nations) are being lowered by that technology. There will come a point when visiting Australia is as easy as visiting another English city is today and then the barriers that are necessary for nationalism will have been all but eroded. For the first time in human history that constant iterative process of empire-collapse-tribalism-empire-collapse-tribalism will potentially be broken. I haven't been able to speculate what will happen then..... but it's a long way off anyway. That's probably a bit beyond this discussion. In the near term there's a choice of course but I still say it's not a very clear one. Our little island choosing to become totally isolationist will weaken us on a global scale, which become significant because meanwhile it'll only take one other nation to take advantage of that isolationist stance and grow it's empire. It's a story that has been repeated for probably probably hundreds of thousands of years, millions perhaps. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 hours ago, king said: So the British committed some of the worse atrocities the world has ever seen.when they invaded Kashmir. The worst atrocities committed in the world is allowing gandis gang to continue to be a pedo religion. The only mistake we made was not wiping all of the pedo's out when we were there. Of course they were content and peaceful with there lot. They were and still are stinking fecking pedo's FFS. Why don't you feck off over there and join the pedo's. Instead of staying here and defending them. No wonder this country is fecked. Defending them? I hate the lot of them tbh but I’m not immature enough to blame them for what the British did to them, facts mate, you can’t argue with them and it’s exactly why we are in this position we are in today, Yes this country is f****d but it’s our own fault, if you can’t accept that then that’s up to 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Born Hunter said: I'm not going to challenge any of the facts you have quoted but the conclusion wreaks of white guilt to me. I'm not entirely sure how I'm supposed to be responsible for the acts of the likes of Cecil Rhodes? Human history is one of conquest and genocide. But we're supposed to be ones feeling guilty today? We can't take the responsibility of colonialism anymore than we can the medals for storming the beaches of Normandy. It's flawed in it's logic and totally unethical. Your not but at the same your not supposed to pretend it never happened and blame them for it when we forced it upon them! We can’t take the responsibility your right, but we can choose not to live in the debacle left over and moan about being took over for the rest of your days 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,909 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Just now, Stoney100 said: Your not but at the same your not supposed to pretend it never happened and blame them for it when we forced it upon them! We can’t take the responsibility your right, but we can choose not to live in the debacle left over and moan about being took over for the rest of your days I'm with you there. Possibly misunderstood. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,025 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Stoney100 said: Defending them? I hate the lot of them tbh but I’m not immature enough to blame them for what the British did to them, facts mate, you can’t argue with them and it’s exactly why we are in this position we are in today, Yes this country is f****d but it’s our own fault, if you can’t accept that then that’s up to Every country in the world has a dodgy past.and I'm not bothered what the British done to them. And I'm not the least bit ashamed either. If they think sleeping with 9yr old kids is normal. Then they deserve what ever comes there way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Just now, king said: Every country in the world has a dodgy past.and I'm not bothered what the British done to them. And I'm not the least bit ashamed either. If they think sleeping with 9yr old kids is normal. Then they deserve what ever comes there way. I agree with you 100%, don’t you just wish we left them to it tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,425 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Yep and wished they had left sadaam and gadaffi to it to seeing as they had the scum under control and fought fire with fire 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, lurcherman 887 said: Well said stoney... but sweedens very much the same as england if not worse!! So id f**k that off.. Sweden isnt anywhere as bad as England yet mate, not saying it won’t be but in my lifetime and where I want to go over there I’m 1000% convinced it offers a far better life than over here! thailand is well....Thailand lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,425 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Dangerous place thailand aint it lol You thought about poland ? Or hungary hungary are offering english families with more than 3 kids tax free living 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Just now, lurcherman 887 said: Dangerous place thailand aint it lol You thought about poland ? Or hungary hungary are offering english families with more than 3 kids tax free living Dangerous as in violence or dangerous as in check the women before you pay? been poland and Hungary mate, if I ever start drinking again and want to eat lots of fatty meat I’ll look into them lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,732 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 I’ve never been to Hungary, it looks a lovely country mate. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, WILF said: I’ve never been to Hungary, it looks a lovely country mate. It is nice tbf, cheap and an anti is a rare thing to find never mind a Muslim lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,025 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, Stoney100 said: I agree with you 100%, don’t you just wish we left them to it tho It's not for me to say to be honest. It is what it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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