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I like those big type of Russells they used,you'd need them for that work.This pup I bred's grandad was the image of that one used on the badger.The line has been in oz a long time.I use them for all sorts here.

 

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8 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:

I like those big type of Russells they used,you'd need them for that work.This pup I bred's grandad was the image of that one used on the badger.The line has been in oz a long time.I use them for all sorts here.

 

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There Sealyham terriers aussie whip some were hybrids between Sealyham & Russell.2 good books to look at are by Jocelyn Lucas, hunt and working terriers and the Sealyham terrier it’s working for sport ,some good pictures from another era especially in the Sealyham terrier it’s working for sport there’s pics of badger digging at the Prime ministers country home chequeres.

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10 minutes ago, Str said:

There Sealyham terriers aussie whip

I'm thinking my Russell's have some Sealyham blood down the line.Not sure but the pups a big fella.

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11 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:

I'm thinking my Russell's have some Sealyham blood down the line.Not sure but the pups a big fella.

I am reminded of a time when I stood admiring/obsessing over a Russell pup that had just came into my possession. I was with a man who knew its' breeding inside out and I asked many stupid questions as the pup ran around the garden...'he has a look of this about him. He has a look of that about him'. The man said "there is all sorts in them son" That shocked me but shut me up.

On another day, in the company of other people, if someone had suggested to that man that there was "all sorts in them", well that person would probably of ended up on his arse. It took me a long time to figure it out. Those terriers were breeding more or less true to type. But they did not walk off the Ark. Was there Sealyham, Bull or proper working Lakeland blood in them? Probably. Were the scatter bred? No. But they were not a product  of a closed gene pool or bred to an aesthetic ideal. That is what the man was saying.

Maybe the white terriers that you have in Oz came from similar lines? Anyway, looks like an old fashioned Sealyham to me.

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1 hour ago, jcb said:

Do u dig much game down there Aussie whip

I don't ,the ground around me is like concrete,but some blokes in other areas do.Most of the foxes around here are in rock piles or sometimes hollow logs or trees.Not many in oz into terriers, its all pig hunting.I use my dogs mainly for vermin control on my and a neighbours property including flushing pigs or deer which are on the increase.

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2 hours ago, eastcoast said:

Anyway, looks like an old fashioned Sealyham to me

Yeah I agree,dosen't look like either parent which just look Russell,as did the other 2 pups in the litter.He is already way bigger than his parents at just under 6months but will suit me for what I do.

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17 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:

Yeah I agree,dosen't look like either parent which just look Russell,as did the other 2 pups in the litter.He is already way bigger than his parents at just under 6months but will suit me for what I do.

I have a smallish smooth coated very bully looking Russell at present. He the product of generations of slightly larger, broken coated, box headed more classically marked terriers. But definitely a throw back to something way back in his breeding. The only problem that I have with him is that should I choose to breed from him (highly unlikely as he has not been given the amount and type of work that he should have had, my fault not his) then it would be highly unlikely that he could reproduce his own physical type. 

Good luck with your pup, as I have said on another thread I really like the look of him.

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Thanks mate,I'd like to reproduce his type if he works out good but as you said these throwback dogs maybe unique.We might just have to enjoy owning and working them as they are,which is ok for me as he will probably outlive me anyway lol.

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