ChrisJones 7,975 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) Last year the Grizzly Bear was de-listed from the Endangered Species List. Wildlife agencies in Idaho and Wyoming had released 23 tags for harvesting under the new ruling. Yesterday a federal judge has restored protections for grizzlies living in and around Yellowstone National Park, nulling the 23 tags available to hunters. Edited September 25, 2018 by ChrisJones Typo 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,578 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 I read this on a bowhunting forum a week ago... https://buckrail.com/two-elk-hunters-attacked-by-bears-guide-still-missing/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted September 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 minute ago, mackem said: I read this on a bowhunting forum a week ago... https://buckrail.com/two-elk-hunters-attacked-by-bears-guide-still-missing/ I'd heard about that one locally. They're trying to establish whether Grizzlies did it. Occupational hazard up there, unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,578 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Guy sounds south African not an aussie,but that bear is a biggie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted September 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, mackem said: Guy sounds south African not an aussie,but that bear is a biggie. Agreed. It's genuinely surprising that a YouTube video was wrong on essential information. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted September 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Just now, W. Katchum said: bear wouldn’t have hear that if I was there through the rapid gun fire 10 shots per minute from a .25 Lightning. The poor bear wouldn't stand a chance. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,927 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 So the dept of fish and wildlife got it wrong? I'm willing to believe that, maybe the cultural impact on the native Americans wasn't considered etc? But I'm also suspicious that in a time when American politics has never been more polarised, that a judge appointed by a democrat is scoring cheap points on an issue that would be considered symbolic of trump and his 'rich trophy hunting mates'... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,617 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 big bears Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jiggy 3,209 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: 10 shots per minute from a .25 Lightning. The poor bear wouldn't stand a chance. What kind of calibre do they use to take out a 1000 pound grizzly. I watched joe Rogan podcast which showed a grizzly walking off with a moose in his mouth as if it was just a fish. I'd imagine a .270 bullet would just tickle them unless there was a perfect heart shot and certainly you would be dead either way by the time you wait for it to take effect. Somebody posted a photo on here last year and he was standing beside a stuffed grizzly that must of been 12 feet tall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted September 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: So the dept of fish and wildlife got it wrong? I'm willing to believe that, maybe the cultural impact on the native Americans wasn't considered etc? But I'm also suspicious that in a time when American politics has never been more polarised, that a judge appointed by a democrat is scoring cheap points on an issue that would be considered symbolic of trump and his 'rich trophy hunting mates'... Possibly. I've not weighed all the commentary from the native community. The number of bears in the DMA (Demographic Monitoring Area) had to exceed 600 bears for the harvest to go ahead. The number is placed in the low 700's. While 23 tags is a low number and it's highly unlikely that they'd be close to filled I'd personally like to see a higher number of bears in the area so I'm kinda mixed on this ruling. $600 a tag for residents on a lottery system. $6000 a tag for non-residents. Seems kinda low for a Griz. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted September 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, jiggy said: What kind of calibre do they use to take out a 1000 pound grizzly. .45-70 firing 540gr Garrett Hammerhead's are recommended for Griz. .25 Lightning is a walking Darwin Award. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jiggy 3,209 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Where is the best place to shoot him? Near the fcuking road because I wouldn't fancy dragging him. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,927 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: .45-70 firing 540gr Garrett Hammerhead's are recommended for Griz. .25 Lightning is a walking Darwin Award. I bet plenty get grassed with the ubiquitous 'thirty aught six'. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted September 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, jiggy said: Where is the best place to shoot him? From a helicopter with a f*ck*ng camera! They can't fly... yet... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,109 Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 After watching the John West adverts, I'm confident I can take one toe to toe 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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