Japan Petitioning The IWC To Lift Whaling Ban

[ChrisJones 7,973]

Japan is proposing a lift on the 30-year-old whaling ban claiming stocks are now sustainable.

They're also proposing a sustainable whaling committee to set catch limits for 'abundant whale stocks/species.'

[scothunter 12,609]

Leave them alone they have sacrificed enough for us. Time to be left in peace

[Greyman 25,371]

They should just let them loose in most shopping malls in the country, cause there's some Wright whales in there and there easy to spot, there all wearing leggings

[Born Hunter 17,640]

Ooooo I quite fancy going whaling!  Not that commercial high tech sort, but with first nations/aboriginals.

If stocks are sustainable I'm not really sure we have grounds to oppose it, do we? Give me ya best argument whale warriors! LOL.

[ginger beard 4,652]

What have they sacraficed for us.?

[DIDO.1 21,007]

16 minutes ago, ginger beard said:

What have they sacraficed for us.?

They served in the first world war! 

Scotland, Ireland and all thcolonies played their part. 

 

 

[scothunter 12,609]

There life's to the point of extinction. They run our industrial factories.

Even old whale hunters are quoted saying "leave them be".

 

[Jonjon79 13,345]

I don't see the issue with letting the Japanese take a few.

....... Record and regulate the numbers. Stiff penalties for anyone that takes the piss.

[Born Hunter 17,640]

3 minutes ago, Jonjon79 said:

I don't see the issue with letting the Japanese take a few.

....... Record and regulate the numbers. Stiff penalties for anyone that takes the piss.

Funny it’s always the Japs being demonised. Often forgot they ain’t the only folks at it....

Id like to hear about the level of sentience of whales personally. That has to be a factor in the morality of this surely.

Also the conservation history of the species that is actually harvested. There’s a difference there between modern whaling and historical.

[Jonjon79 13,345]

16 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Funny it’s always the Japs being demonised. Often forgot they ain’t the only folks at it....

Id like to hear about the level of sentience of whales personally. That has to be a factor in the morality of this surely.

Also the conservation history of the species that is actually harvested. There’s a difference there between modern whaling and historical.

That's a really interesting point - there must be a big brain in that huge head.

 ......... It makes you wonder.

[ginger beard 4,652]

What you highlighted there jonjon is something the vegans say.

[Jonjon79 13,345]

24 minutes ago, ginger beard said:

What you highlighted there jonjon is something the vegans say.

I just find it interesting mate - they don't even know what all of our brain does and, it's smaller than a whale's.

 

I don't disagree with hunting a couple. In fact, i wouldn't mind trying a couple of the traditional dishes

[ChrisJones 7,973]

3 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

If stocks are sustainable I'm not really sure we have grounds to oppose it, do we? Give me ya best argument whale warriors!

Like with trophy hunting it's not really for me but I don't necessarily oppose it, but can we equate commercial slaughter for profit with trophy hunting permits to aid in conservation?

I'd rather see that than the alternative also a clear definition of what sustainable is in this context.

I don't have an issue with subsistence hunting/whaling but there's a massive difference between a native Inuit tribe and the Nisshin Maru.

[Born Hunter 17,640]

3 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

Like with trophy hunting it's not really for me but I don't necessarily oppose it, but can we equate commercial slaughter for profit with trophy hunting permits to aid in conservation?

I'd rather see that than the alternative also a clear definition of what sustainable is in this context.

I don't have an issue with subsistence hunting/whaling but there's a massive difference between a native Inuit tribe and the Nisshin Maru.

Yeah, I sort of conflated the two. They might be different but both have to be sustainable. Commercial whaling has more in kin with commercial fishing than subsistence or sport hunting/fishing and really should be treated as such here.

I don't think the hunting conservation model can easily be applied to populations that reside in the oceans as no one can take ownership of them the same way we can land. They have to be treated like national parks/public lands with the international community the custodians and law enforcers.

[DIDO.1 21,007]

I'd allow whaling but in non powered boats. I always loved reading moby dick as a kid