ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) Here's a pretty good article on how they were involved in Kenya's election campaign. Reuters does a decent breakdown of Cambridge Analytica. Edited March 20, 2018 by ChrisJones Additional Link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,638 Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: Next question is 'then why do you want to make it bigger?' I don't have a tablet or smartphone, and while I fully understand how privacy works on the internet that doesn't mean I'm going to simply give up that right. Mankind has indeed been using propaganda since the beginning but the issue is the specific nature of the campaign and profiling that is used to predict and influence. You could've just said you don't mind not having a right to privacy! Are there any other rights you'd prefer not to have? The difference is that they're paying a corporation to personally tailor that propaganda to you, and you're absolutely alright with that? But you didn't answer the question... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism Be all this as it may, I don't think it should be banned. It's our responsibility to communicate, to debate and argue, to discredit sources that are biased. I think we'll "find a way", it just might take a bit of turmoil on the process. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Be all this as it may, I don't think it should be banned. It's our responsibility to communicate, to debate and argue, to discredit sources that are biased. I think we'll "find a way", it just might take a bit of turmoil on the process. I can go with that I guess I'm just shocked at the difference in opinions towards rights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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scothunter 12,609 Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 Look@ the state of him 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,638 Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, ChrisJones said: I can go with that I guess I'm just shocked at the difference in opinions towards rights. I'm on board with you regarding right to privacy. I'm just not sure anymore where that line is drawn on the net/Social media? Using the information we put into the public domain to tailor propaganda etc I don't see a problem with (at least not one that should be fixed). What is classed as public domain on the other hand I feel is a bit grey these days and makes me twitchy, for the privacy reason obviously. But perhaps I've just been 'normalised'! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 Simple solution delete you're facebook account. But I suspect there be a lot would have withdrawal symptoms like a junkie not knowing what there mate had for dinner. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kerny92 1,246 Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, scothunter said: Look@ the state of him He's just angry because someone refused to give him a reach-around. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kerny92 1,246 Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, scothunter said: Simple solution delete you're facebook account. But I suspect there be a lot would have withdrawal symptoms like a junkie not knowing what there mate had for dinner. Am not giving up Facebook to lose out on Grandad, he's like me. We're not freytened! Edited March 20, 2018 by Kerny92 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: I'm on board with you regarding right to privacy. I'm just not sure anymore where that line is drawn on the net/Social media? Using the information we put into the public domain to tailor propaganda etc I don't see a problem with (at least not one that should be fixed). What is classed as public domain on the other hand I feel is a bit grey these days and makes me twitchy, for the privacy reason obviously. But perhaps I've just been 'normalised'! Hard to call. I understand that using the WWW is a transaction between user and site. You will handover certain information as part of the deal. I get that and I accept that it's part of the experience. However... Social media has normalised transparency. Facebook have either negligently allowed their data to be breached or Cambridge Analytica has taken it under false pretences. CA's particular niggle is that they've accessed not only the participator (in the guise of whoever has loaded this app) but all of their friends, and then their friends, such is the elaborate nature of this application. As is mentioned in the video above they take this extremely personal information and use it to create content that will go as far as it needs to to make you receptive to their message. The content's accuracy is irrelevant as it's about engaging and controlling behaviour and you only have to look at GT to see how the content is shared and posted. They've essentially weaponised social media. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kerny92 1,246 Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: Hard to call. I understand that using the WWW is a transaction between user and site. You will handover certain information as part of the deal. I get that and I accept that it's part of the experience. However... Social media has normalised transparency. Facebook have either negligently allowed their data to be breached or Cambridge Analytica has taken it under false pretences. CA's particular niggle is that they've accessed not only the participator (in the guise of whoever has loaded this app) but all of their friends, and then their friends, such is the elaborate nature of this application. As is mentioned in the video above they take this extremely personal information and use it to create content that will go as far as it needs to to make you receptive to their message. The content's accuracy is irrelevant as it's about engaging and controlling behaviour and you only have to look at GT to see how the content is shared and posted. They've essentially weaponised social media. It just isn't true though as the vast majority of information that is shared on Facebook is what Kathleen had for tea or how hungover Roy is. Of course there's plenty of bullshit on there but that's usually the work of an idiot who shouldn't be allowed oxygen let alone a laptop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kerny92 said: Am not giving up Facebook to lose out on Grandad, he's like me. We aren't freytened! That's the kinda stuff on Facebook. Dear God! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kerny92 1,246 Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, scothunter said: That's the kinda stuff on Facebook. Dear God! I hope Facebook is not trying to influence me into being a dirty old man! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kerny92 said: It just isn't true though as the vast majority of information that is shared on Facebook is what Kathleen had for tea or how hungover Roy is. Of course there's plenty of bullshit on there but that's usually the work of an idiot who shouldn't be allowed oxygen let alone a laptop. Maybe in your stream but it's the personal interaction of everything you do while logged in. He says so in the video above. Unless he's lying? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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