j j m 6,616 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 the catholic church is a law upon its self Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 45 minutes ago, WILF said: The bible says humans can’t judge.....only the big lad can do that and I suppose if you take that view you can stand shoulder to shoulder with almost any beast confident in the belief it’s not your business to deal out the justice? Careful mate. This forum wouldn't have any posts if that was the case! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, jukel123 said: Francie, I read somewhere that the comedy series 'Father Ted' had a big impact in Ireland. It acted something like the fairytale"The Emperor's Clothes" So much so that a lot of Catholics stopped believing in Catholicism and that it's not uncommon for nuns and priests to be hissed at in the street now. Does that ring true in your experience? Graham Linehan and Arthur Matthews nailed religion with these series. Edited December 21, 2017 by ChrisJones 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,578 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Ex-abbot jailed for 18 years for abusing boys at top Catholic school . A “sadistic” former abbot has been jailed for 18 years for molesting children at a scandal-hit Catholic school. Andrew Soper, 74, is likely to die in prison after being found guilty of a string of sex attacks on boys in the 1970s and 80s. He fled to Kosovo with £182,000 from the Vatican bank in a bid to avoid responsibility for the abuse at fee-paying St Benedict’s School in Ealing, west London. But the former Ealing abbot and headmaster, known as Father Laurence, was extradited to face 19 charges of indecent assault and buggery against 10 former pupils. On being found guilty at the Old Bailey, the school apologised unreservedly for the “serious wrongs of the past”. Soper’s victims were supported by relatives in court when he appeared to be sentenced. The court heard Soper still maintained his innocence and described his conviction as a “miscarriage of justice”. Sentencing, Judge Anthony Bate said his conduct was “the most appalling breach of trust” and he had “subverted the rules of the Benedictine order and teachings of the Catholic Church”. He told Soper: “You have been a clandestine sex offender since your early 30s.” He said his life would now be “overshadowed by the proven catalogue of vile abuse”. He added: “Your disgrace is complete.” The school counts former Conservative chairman Lord Patten and entertainer Julian Clary among its old boys and currently charges fees of around £5,000 a term. It had come under scrutiny in the past, with both violence and sexual abuse by the adults in charge said to be “prevalent”. Prosecutor Gillian Etherton QC had told how the victims were subjected to sadistic beatings by Soper for “fake reasons”. They included kicking a football “in the wrong direction”, “failing to use double margins”, and “using the (wrong) staircase”, leading to a caning and a sexual assault, she said. Ms Etherton said at least one of Soper’s alleged victims subsequently suffered serious mental health problems, while another was too afraid to speak out because the abusers “were like saints to me”. Giving evidence, Soper denied using the cane as a ruse to abuse boys who were given the choice of six lashes with trousers on, or three with them off. He told jurors he went on the run out of “stupidity and cowardice”, fearing that his life’s work would be wrecked. Soper is the latest in a string of men to face allegations relating to their work at St Benedict’s. In a statement, Lord Carlile QC said on behalf of the school: “The tough lessons of the past have been learned, and the errors and crimes of the past are in the daily consciousness and conscience of the school management.” Advertisement Ealing Abbey said in a statement: “Andrew Soper has finally been brought to justice. “Our thoughts and prayers are with his victims. We admire them for their courage in coming forward as witnesses in order to secure his conviction. “We apologise to everyone who is affected by the crimes Soper committed while he was a monk of Ealing and a teacher at St Benedict’s School in the 1970s and 1980s.” https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/ex-abbot-jailed-for-18-years-for-abusing-boys-at-top-catholic-school/ar-BBH7M56?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartanntp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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