ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Doing my morning rounds of the news outlets I came across this article. It's about 600 homes in North Yorkshire that haven't had gas for three days. This is news. For me living out in the sticks utilities going out is nothing new. It's nothing more than an inconvenience. It's absolutely normal for the power to go out. In fact growing up in rip off Britain having to decide whether to have gas or electricity was sometimes a monthly decision based on who's costs trebled due to 'unforeseen operational advancements.' I understand that Britain has gone through a bit of cold spell that's put extra strain on the infrastructure but at what point does the average person look out for their own interests without looking up the chain at a set of entitlements? This isn't a 'Doomsday Prepper' style scenario but a genuine curiosity on the contingency plans some of the THL faithful have in place. In the modern world 'survivalist types' are looked at with curiosity at best but looking into the recent past the survivalists I knew were simply called grandparents. They grew up under rationing and supplemented their food with what they grew. They knew how to purify water and split firewood. In 2017 it seems difficult to find anyone that knows how to do this that doesn't have their own reality TV show and when you mention it they'll show you an app on their phone. In the mountains when the snow can keep you confined inside for days at a time it makes sense to have extra food in the pantry. It makes sense to have alternative forms of power and heating that supplement gas and electricity. Yet when I go into the city and read articles like that on the BBC, it seems that people are genuinely baffled that they're in charge of their own wellbeing and are quite happy to delegate that responsibility to an authority type body. With respect members privacy, and certainly not asking for detailed lists, what sort of contingency plans do you have for minor/major inconveniences? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 I have a rucksack im cupboard. It has a fire kit (ferro rod fire straws, fat wood lighters etc. Batteries torches. Thermals, gloves, socks, first aid kit. Glow sticks. Hand warmers. Changenof clothes. power bank. Thermos and water purification tabs. Few other bits and bobs. Always have extra tins in cupboard. If i had to get out of here its just a matter of grabbing some stuff from cupboard and the rucksack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,522 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 I think peoples ideas of prepping and survival are changing,been in villages where only one or two houses had lecky before but people still managed to charge their phones in fact that was their priority,paper thin flip-flops,tattered shorts and vest,couple of starving ankle biters in tow but their main concern was their phone 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Lol@mackem. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Sleeping bags ,water ,several knives and first aid kit in car at all times 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: I live an work in North Yorkshire an up in dales in particular an I’m opposite. I think it’s a sad state of affairs that there’s villages an homes an farms up there that have to go without, very lil 4g signal or broadband means lots kids/family’s/business are going without yet these are the folk we want to buy our milk/beef/lamb off, but some wee sand rat sat in a cave can use all WiFi he needs? we need to start looking after our own community’s an these communities that are gong without are our only real step back to Britain of old so we should try an preserve it an if that means updating amenities or roads or what ever to keep these folk in business then so be it, not so much a entitlement, more progress to help our own and and as far as plans go only so much ye can plan as once shit comes to shove who knows what type a senario we be in? I’m planned to go all mad max tho? 5 Absolutely. I understand what you mean and I'm not suggesting being anti-community but more self-sufficient and less reliant on authority. There's nothing wrong with working together to improve the situation but I meant more along the lines of where do you draw the line between independence and reliance? To me having WiFi is a luxury and if it goes I've got a pretty decent sized library to go at. Again that's more through learning from history when it does go out! 7 minutes ago, scothunter said: I have a rucksack im cupboard. It has a fire kit (ferro rod fire straws, fat wood lighters etc. Batteries torches. Thermals, gloves, socks, first aid kit. Glow sticks. Hand warmers. Changenof clothes. power bank. Thermos and water purification tabs. Few other bits and bobs. Always have extra tins in cupboard. If i had to get out of here its just a matter of grabbing some stuff from cupboard and the rucksack. 11 Interesting concept. I'm much more of shelter in place kind of person. Living in a potential wildfire area we do keep bags ready for fire season but barring some kind of cataclysmic disaster I'm sticking it out! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 I can live out of my truck at the drop of a hat ... which I pretty much do ... got plenty of warm kit... waterproofs ... sleeping system ... shelter ... food ... water ... fire lighting kit ... cooker etc in there 24/7 so I'm pretty much prepared for most things ... except a tsunami ... I will now add my blow up Kaiak to be safe ....... 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, mackem said: I think peoples ideas of prepping and survival are changing,been in villages where only one or two houses had lecky before but people still managed to charge their phones in fact that was their priority,paper thin flip-flops,tattered shorts and vest,couple of starving ankle biters in tow but their main concern was their phone That's the mentality I can't understand and they're usually the ones whining when these things go wrong! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 @chris i have always kept a rucksack with a few essentials. I dont consider myself a prepper by any stretch of the imagination and like you i will stick I will stick it out. However if i need to abandon my home idrather have the bare necessities to get me by until i get sorted. Could very easily get isolated up here in the highlands. Its happened before. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, scothunter said: @chris i have always kept a rucksack with a few essentials. I dont consider myself a prepper by any stretch of the imagination and like you i will stick I will stick it out. However if i need to abandon my home idrather have the bare necessities to get me by until i get sorted. Could very easily get isolated up here in the highlands. Its happened before. Understandable mate and I'm the same compared to some people I know. I guess it's what we're viewing is common sense. When I walk the dogs in the forest I have a few MRE's a Jetboil and water. First aid kit. Collapsable dishes so the dogs can drink. In the summer I'll carry a couple of gallons just for the dogs. A lad I work with his idea of a backpack full of essentials is his tablet, credit card, mobile phone and a charger... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,843 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 I am only connected to electric and phone and obviously mains water everything else is mine and I can provide for myself. So, I can do without phone, water is not a problem to harvest as it falls out the sky by the f***ing tanker load !! If I had the money to invest in a decent solar or wind system for electric then I would pretty much be totally off grid. I own 2 peat bogs and a forest so fuel is no problem and I do that for myself now. I am just about to sit down and eat my own pork and I also have my own veal and lamb in the freezer now. I have eggs but I am shit at growing things but I suppose at a push that wouldn’t be a problem either. No mortgage to pay so I can pretty much sit indoors with my feet up......and I do, quiet regularly!! Lol 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,522 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Zombie apocalypse aint going to catch me out,just done a quick inventory of my bug-out bag and tried it on for size haven't added the kitchen sink yet. 1 1 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Chris these communities in North Yorkshire are more self reliant than the other 98%a Britain an always have been, but I’d we are expecting to do business with these folk then the least they deserve is the basics that rest of country gets, obviously if we had a disaster than all service an amnesties would stop but until then we need you improve what we have, some a these places are only a couple mile away from towns an other bigger places so it not gonna be hard, instead we too busy sending foreign aid all over world. Agreed with the infrastructure but like you said they've adapted to living without it so they're much better set than the other 98% because of necessity. What is the likelihood of that happening though? I guess what else I'm saying is at what point did that 98% get to be that way! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,522 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Neighbours always complain about me parking in the street,but f**k them,come the day whose going to be laughing then eh? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollieollie 766 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 I have all the necessary skills and equipment for me and my family to survive whatever type of conundrum should arrive. I like to practice traditional skills anyway. Where I live in a prolonged situation like that the local runts would be the first hurdle I expect. importantly I can also make beer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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