Crackers 807 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bar Jennings or an ancient tony Thompson he's beat nobody and his wins haven't looked convincing imo Cubans tend to do just enough but a win is a win at the end of the day ....there's only one way to find out or be found out AJ has only ever really fought whyte and arguably a over the hill kilt and was put in trouble by them both ve never seen ortiz even slightly shakenaj fought every one put in front of him klit arguably best heavyweight of his time... Kevin Johnson never been stopped not by fury or klit... Ortiz fought David Allan and looked average I just don't see him beating aj at allYet looked fantastic against Jennings I believe Mike tyson rates Jennings as the most skilful heavyweight out there and Ortiz schooled him ....it's all horses for courses mate only one way to find ....a quote from jennings that made me laugh when jenning was asked was ortiz a big hitter he said " no not really but when Ortiz taps you he knocks you the fek out" i can't see it in him sorry..... but time will tell.... I think pulev next then Ortiz then wilder.... Ortiz looks slow to me... but might just be me...?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crackers 807 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Bar Jennings or an ancient tony Thompson he's beat nobody and his wins haven't looked convincing imoCubans tend to do just enough but a win is a win at the end of the day ....there's only one way to find out or be found out AJ has only ever really fought whyte and arguably a over the hill kilt and was put in trouble by them both ve never seen ortiz even slightly shakenaj fought every one put in front of him klit arguably best heavyweight of his time... Kevin Johnson never been stopped not by fury or klit... Ortiz fought David Allan and looked average I just don't see him beating aj at allKevin Johnson took a dive for a big pay check that's the real news everyone knows now he even never bothered training or wasting money on a training camp plus the announcer made a point of saying he's never been stopped a few times hint hint lolnever wasted money on training camp so trained in fury camp ??????? someone who never been stopped not going want to be stopped no matter what don't care what you or anyone else says that's all made his claim to fame lol Edited August 4, 2017 by Crackers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,650 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bar Jennings or an ancient tony Thompson he's beat nobody and his wins haven't looked convincing imo Cubans tend to do just enough but a win is a win at the end of the day ....there's only one way to find out or be found out AJ has only ever really fought whyte and arguably a over the hill kilt and was put in trouble by them both ve never seen ortiz even slightly shakenaj fought every one put in front of him klit arguably best heavyweight of his time... Kevin Johnson never been stopped not by fury or klit... Ortiz fought David Allan and looked average I just don't see him beating aj at allYet looked fantastic against Jennings I believe Mike tyson rates Jennings as the most skilful heavyweight out there and Ortiz schooled him ....it's all horses for courses mate only one way to find ....a quote from jennings that made me laugh when jenning was asked was ortiz a big hitter he said " no not really but when Ortiz taps you he knocks you the fek out" i can't see it in him sorry..... but time will tell.... I think pulev next then Ortiz then wilder.... Ortiz looks slow to me... but might just be me...??He is slow in some respects and realys on the counter to a degree but that where the danger is for his opponents he needs a fighter who wants to fight and AJ will want to fight that's why I think its a good fight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bar Jennings or an ancient tony Thompson he's beat nobody and his wins haven't looked convincing imoCubans tend to do just enough but a win is a win at the end of the day ....there's only one way to find out or be found out AJ has only ever really fought whyte and arguably a over the hill kilt and was put in trouble by them both ve never seen ortiz even slightly shakenaj fought every one put in front of him klit arguably best heavyweight of his time... Kevin Johnson never been stopped not by fury or klit... Ortiz fought David Allan and looked average I just don't see him beating aj at allKevin Johnson took a dive for a big pay check that's the real news everyone knows now he even never bothered training or wasting money on a training camp plus the announcer made a point of saying he's never been stopped a few times hint hint lolnever wasted money on training camp so trained in fury camp ??????? someone who never been stopped not going want to be stopped no matter what don't care what you or anyone else says that's all made his claim to fame lol No furys offered him the gym to use and he turned up once and was half hearted about everything it's common knowledge money Talks mate im sure he wouldn't of cared with a big pay cheque Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crackers 807 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 I'm Sure he would.. his reputation was built on it... "never been stopped" of course he going want go distance that's what he does but he couldn't...... easy say he never trained never went to camp... I don't believe it.. he had a reputation to hold and he couldn't.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 I'm Sure he would.. his reputation was built on it... "never been stopped" of course he going want go distance that's what he does but he couldn't...... easy say he never trained never went to camp... I don't believe it.. he had a reputation to hold and he couldn't.... What ever look past the rose tinted glasses doesn't take much to see what Kevin johnsons all about Lol he never cared as long as his baby girl was good money talks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 He was old and looking for that final pay check come back to reality now say he survived 12 rounds where would he have gone from there ??? It's either keep getting beat up for 12 rounds or take the retirement check Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 He's had two fights since one win and one loss no he's never talked about or heard from Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crackers 807 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Talked about for being durable ?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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MickC 1,825 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Whyte should give Chisora the rematch before fighting anyone else but he won't,he was gifted a decision in the first fight. As for Ortiz,Erkan Teper was a monster when he was on the juice,since he got caught he's came back and he's crap now with out the juice,just saying like. Or maybe Ortiz has been holding back in the last couple of fights to get a title shot,if he looks to good he might get over looked . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Truth be told Ortiz is probably as old as Wvlad...but i still think the hard hitting cuban southpaw gives Joshua problems...the fight im looking forward to at heavyweight is Parker-v-Fury...Parkers not looked great in his last couple and Hughie's not really impressed me yet...hope Septembers fight will bring the best out in both of them...got tickets so hope Hughies not a no show...as for Wvlad...brilliant career but one of the most boring long reigning Champs in the division in my opinion...last fight was a good'un tho 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crackers 807 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Wlad one of the greatest boxers and long reigning.. boring at times granted.... but both furys got be the most boring along with Parker to ever put on gloves lol and you've bought tickets ???.... Fury only active in a press conference lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,277 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 With a proper hard hitter aj goes to sleep. Wvlad showed his temple is his on off switch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,425 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Lol hughie fury will not fight again mark my words Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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