Migration.

[mackay 3,738]

Latest figures show the population in Britain increased by 538,000 the biggest increase in 70 yrs.

Even taking that to the net figure it is 336,000.

Englands population alone has exceeded 55 million for the first time.

Thank your leftwing, handwringing liberals.

This country is well and truly fcuked.

[scothunter 12,609]

As much as it pains me to say this the tories have let them in after pledging 3 times to curb the influx of migrants. Utterly useless and vote stealers

[jacknife 2,005]

Unfortunately as long as we are in the EU no government has any say on how many can come to benefits britain

 

Bulgarians and Romanians being the biggest scroungers in these parts

 

They come in whole family groups.... Gangs of them wander round the women being big fat greasy pigs

[C556 351]

Do those figures include estimated numbers for illegal immigration?

[socks 32,253]

Do those figures include estimated numbers for illegal immigration?

Nope those are only OFFICIAL figures .....

[Deadeye18 164]

Even if we leave the EU we will still have large scale legal and illegal immigration because the same self serving,ignorant,weak,feeble,cowardly,stupid breed of political idiots will still be running the show always afraid to take action and afraid of the very loud minority of left wing baby boomer and snow flake do gooders and PC media.

[mackem 30,880]

The tide is always incoming,it never ebbs,how many brits head off to pakistan or nigeria to set up home?Radio earlier today some fruit and veg producers were lamenting they couldnt get enough farm-workers and were making a concerted effort to recruit from bulgaria and romania,the games f****d,a decent political party with no hidden agendas except for the well-being of the indiginous population would clean up,it would be a one horse race.

[mackem 30,880]

Do those figures include estimated numbers for illegal immigration?

 

Sadiq Khan Backs Amnesty On Grenfell Tower Illegal Immigrants

The Mayor of London has called on the government to ensure any illegal immigrants who lived in Grenfell Tower to be protected.

 

At least 79 people died after the 24-storey tower in West London caught fire last week.

One of the reasons for the authorities inability to get an accurate death toll is because some of the victims are too frightened to come forward and get help.

LBC's Senior Reporter Vincent McAviney explains: "Some of the residents are undocumented migrants or are people who were living in the tower illegally - and they're worried that is their status is looked into, they'll be prosecuted.

"The probelm with this is that without working out exactly who was inside, an acurate death toll can't be known and secondly, the people that did survive can't be rehoused or helped in any way."

 

Vincent has spent the last week in North Kensington speaking to residents and they told him some of the tenants were illegally subletting their properties or they had a new partner living with them but hadn't notified authorities as it might have affected their benefits.

One resident told him she knows of people in this situation: "They need immediate amnesty in terms of the law. Until that is forthcoming, the community of residents won't be reporting that those people are missing, they won't be reporting those people's needs.

"Unless everyone is completely sure that this will not get you into trouble with your immigration status, it's not going to get you into trouble with your landlord, it's not going to get you into trouble with your benefits, people aren't going to come forward."

 

Sadiq Khan has told LBC that he is backing a complete amnesty. He said: "No action must be taken against anybody in Grenfell Tower who comes forward.

"There may be some people who are sub-letting, breaching their tenancy agreement.

"There may be people who have got friends and family visiting, who they are worried about if they report them because they haven't got immigration status.

"All of those people should feel confident that if they come forward and speak to the authorities, that no action will be taken."

It's now down to the Government to confirm whether the Amnesty will be extended. Mayor Khan says he'll be pushing them on this in their disaster relief meetings.

 

 

Why give an amnesty to illegal immigrants?

[BGD 6,437]

The only party pledging to bring net migration down to zero only got 1.8% of the vote at the general election.

 

I'm not so sure an anti-immigration nationalist party would do as well as some folk think

[C556 351]

If the Tories don't deliver on Brexit by removing the freedom of movement for EU nationals, I bet UKIP's share of the vote will go back up.

Edited June 22, 2017 by C556

[C556 351]

The tide is always incoming,it never ebbs,how many brits head off to pakistan or nigeria to set up home?Radio earlier today some fruit and veg producers were lamenting they couldnt get enough farm-workers and were making a concerted effort to recruit from bulgaria and romania,the games f****d,a decent political party with no hidden agendas except for the well-being of the indiginous population would clean up,it would be a one horse race.

How did the fruit and veg growers survive before we were in the EU? If an exemption isn't made for seasonal workers from abroad they can either increase their wages, increase their mechanisation, or change to growing different crops.

[Accip74 7,112]

 

The tide is always incoming,it never ebbs,how many brits head off to pakistan or nigeria to set up home?Radio earlier today some fruit and veg producers were lamenting they couldnt get enough farm-workers and were making a concerted effort to recruit from bulgaria and romania,the games f****d,a decent political party with no hidden agendas except for the well-being of the indiginous population would clean up,it would be a one horse race.

How did the fruit and veg growers survive before we were in the EU? If an exemption isn't made for seasonal workers from abroad they can either increase their wages, increase their mechanisation, or change to growing different crops.

You mean 40 years ago? I'd say alots changed in that industry since then. A growing industry with dwindling interest from our indigenous population.

As for growing different crops? you think fruit & vege farms will just switch to growing wheat & barley?

 

It is a problem with no easy answer. Forcing our own people to do this work is one way? But unrealistic.

 

 

It's quite an interesting subject really. We've been encouraging our youth to be more aspirational for many years, which is great, but the down side is a loss of interest in many areas of different industries. How do we fill the void?

Edited June 22, 2017 by Accip74

[Blackbriar 8,569]

Do those figures include estimated numbers for illegal immigration?

 

I would think that the fact they're here illegally means no-one can have any idea how many there are ?

[C556 351]

 

 

The tide is always incoming,it never ebbs,how many brits head off to pakistan or nigeria to set up home?Radio earlier today some fruit and veg producers were lamenting they couldnt get enough farm-workers and were making a concerted effort to recruit from bulgaria and romania,the games f****d,a decent political party with no hidden agendas except for the well-being of the indiginous population would clean up,it would be a one horse race.

How did the fruit and veg growers survive before we were in the EU? If an exemption isn't made for seasonal workers from abroad they can either increase their wages, increase their mechanisation, or change to growing different crops.

You mean 40 years ago? I'd say alots changed in that industry since then. A growing industry with dwindling interest from our indigenous population.

As for growing different crops? you think fruit & vege farms will just switch to growing wheat & barley?

 

It is a problem with no easy answer. Forcing our own people to do this work is one way? But unrealistic.

 

 

It's quite an interesting subject really. We've been encouraging our youth to be more aspirational for many years, which is great, but the down side is a loss of interest in many areas of different industries. How do we fill the void?

There's no need to force people to work in fruit farms, if you increase the wages to a certain point you'll have a lot of people who want to do that type of work. It'll just mean the fruit becomes more expensive for the consumer. If they're unable to compete at those prices then they'll go out of business and the land will be used for other types of agriculture.

 

To get teenagers to fill voids in industries I think students should get cut price tuition fees or grants for subjects where they're needed, like in science and engineering.

[Blackbriar 8,569]

 

 

 

The tide is always incoming,it never ebbs,how many brits head off to pakistan or nigeria to set up home?Radio earlier today some fruit and veg producers were lamenting they couldnt get enough farm-workers and were making a concerted effort to recruit from bulgaria and romania,the games f****d,a decent political party with no hidden agendas except for the well-being of the indiginous population would clean up,it would be a one horse race.

How did the fruit and veg growers survive before we were in the EU? If an exemption isn't made for seasonal workers from abroad they can either increase their wages, increase their mechanisation, or change to growing different crops.

You mean 40 years ago? I'd say alots changed in that industry since then. A growing industry with dwindling interest from our indigenous population.

As for growing different crops? you think fruit & vege farms will just switch to growing wheat & barley?

It is a problem with no easy answer. Forcing our own people to do this work is one way? But unrealistic.

It's quite an interesting subject really. We've been encouraging our youth to be more aspirational for many years, which is great, but the down side is a loss of interest in many areas of different industries. How do we fill the void?

There's no need to force people to work in fruit farms, if you increase the wages to a certain point you'll have a lot of people who want to do that type of work. It'll just mean the fruit becomes more expensive for the consumer. If they're unable to compete at those prices then they'll go out of business and the land will be used for other types of agriculture.

To get teenagers to fill voids in industries I think students should get cut price tuition fees or grants for subjects where they're needed, like in science and engineering.

Rural communities tend to have small populations and low unemployment, so they don't have the availability of local labour. Wages aren't sufficient to allow commuting workers - their seasonal workforce are mostly Bulgarians and Romanians, who live a semi-nomadic existence, moving from harvest to harvest, farm to farm.

 

The flexibility of workforce suits the growers, who have narrow windows of harvesting time......