Casso 1,264 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 http://www.collared-scholar.com/more-harm-than-good-3-reasons-why-i-never-socialize-my-puppies/ 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Very good read pal, the sort of approach I've always taken to raising pups Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casso 1,264 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Very good read pal, the sort of approach I've always taken to raising pups Likewise , I've done the social thing , now I focus it on me , build trust / bond and take it from there , the rest of the world can wait until we're ready 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,969 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 It makes sense to me now. I don't want my dog to want to mix with others. I just want him to blank them and carry on like they don't exist. I used to have dogs when I was younger and never had an issue wit them and other dogs. They never got to meet other dogs as we were out in the sticks a bit and kept to our selves. But I could throw any of them in the back of a truck with a strange dog for a nights lamping and you wouldn't hear a thing from them. After a gap of 20 years or more i get my lurcher pup and hear all about this get them around other dogs and mix as much as you can. So straight after jabs round the local village he meets a young lady and a whippet his first ever meeting. Friendly enough but the whippet got over excited and before i new it bounced all over him and scared him to death. Further meetings never went much better. Took him to dog classes with 30 dogs yapping there heads off all that did was get him even more wound up. Now he can be a pain in the arse with other dogs. So if there is a next time i won't be doing that again 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 good article. i stopped allowing pups to be fussed or even spoken to by strangers over 20 years ago, i dont want pups that run off to evryone they see in the hope of getting stroked. i have even resorted to having friends with water pistols and "setting up" pups which were particularly stranger-focussed. and these days whilst i let pups meet strange dogs on the lead and have a sniff, i dont allow the off-lead mad running around, except witholder dogs of mine which i know will come straight to me when called, so pup doesnt learn bad habits like ignoring me in order to go and play. but i do like to get them out and about as much as possible, especially in the car and around livestock 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Great read and makes perfect sense to me. Done just about the same with the dog i've got now and he's totally wed to me and the family and is practically bomb proof. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 I don't think everyone can train a dog. Some can, some can't. I really don't get bogged down in details. I let a pup, be pup. I've been taught to do that. All dogs are different and doing the same thing with every dog would not produce the same outcome. You need to be able to read the dog. If you can do that and be constant with training you'll do just fine. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,626 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 good arcticle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 I haven't read the article yet but what happens when excited family members inevitably see your new pup?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,038 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Interesting read that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,595 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Good read that and it makes sense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casso 1,264 Posted October 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) I haven't read the article yet but what happens when excited family members inevitably see your new pup??It's more about managing the pup , it will meet family of course but just be sensible keep it low key , at the end of the day the pup does not need to meet every f****r or encounter every occasion , it's ridiculous , it needs you to be its rock and not to be put in situations it can't emotionally deal with , Why don't they let children watch horror movies, because the more fear you introduce at an early age the bigger the physiological effects are , a dog has a physical memory , it relives the feeling it got when it encounters something and there after it goes through the same feeling for ever more unless you work extensively to rewire it , which is a lot bother when fear didn't need to be introduced in the first place There's a multi million dollar industry created to cater for f****d up dogs , dog behavior experts lining there pockets , when what they are telling us is creating basket cases out of healthy secure pups by overexposure to fearful environments It's a bit like pedigree chum promoting dental sticks for decay problems their f***ing food has caused in the first place , go figure , pay us to cause it pay us to fix it , it's a win win Edited October 1, 2016 by Casso 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,969 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 just repeating what I have read but it now makes sense to me a dogs first encounter with any thing is the most important. So in my case a whippet bouncing all over my little pup set the president for what he expected from there on in. If he had met the same whippet at 6-7 months old when he would also hopefully have had some obedience on the way it would have gone whole different direction and a good one I reckon But like lab says some people can and some can't I definitely fall on the wrong side of that category 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casso 1,264 Posted October 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 just repeating what I have read but it now makes sense to me a dogs first encounter with any thing is the most important. So in my case a whippet bouncing all over my little pup set the president for what he expected from there on in. If he had met the same whippet at 6-7 months old when he would also hopefully have had some obedience on the way it would have gone whole different direction and a good one I reckon But like lab says some people can and some can't I definitely fall on the wrong side of that category You're on the money with your breakdown of first encounters , critical that you manage the situation for the benefit of pup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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