General lee 979 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Yeh wouldn't western Europe be Germany France Belgium and the Netherlands 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Yes to both of you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Yes to both of you. So likely 50% German, I'd be happy with that if I was you. Where you have this done and what is the error percentage? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,017 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Strange the talk on here about genetic physicality , my misses greatcgreat great grandad returned from America with a native american wife in tow, when my misses hair remains undyed and reverts back to her natural colour she looks like she could have stepped of the set of last of the mohicans Additionally although slightly different , if you look at the Scottish border locality from Gretna across to the North Sea , the concentration of the same surnames in this place hadn't changed in nearly 500 years Not many places can claim that From bells , armstrongs and nixons in the west to Charlton musgrave fenwick foster in the east , it's so surreal it can't surely be the same everywhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,595 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Yeh wouldn't western Europe be Germany France Belgium and the Netherlands really,,,you agree with the above bornhunter,,,, to me western europe is portugul ,,spain ,,france at a push,,,,surly germany belgium netherlands are central europe,,,poland ukrain ect the east Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Yeh wouldn't western Europe be Germany France Belgium and the Netherlands really,,,you agree with the above bornhunter,,,, to me western europe is portugul ,,spain ,,france at a push,,,,surly germany belgium netherlands are central europe,,,poland ukrain ect the east There's a lot more to that list if you want to get technical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General lee 979 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Yeh wouldn't western Europe be Germany France Belgium and the Netherlands really,,,you agree with the above bornhunter,,,, to me western europe is portugul ,,spain ,,france at a push,,,,surly germany belgium netherlands are central europe,,,poland ukrain ect the east Just had another look at a map and yes your probably right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Yeh wouldn't western Europe be Germany France Belgium and the Netherlands really,,,you agree with the above bornhunter,,,, to me western europe is portugul ,,spain ,,france at a push,,,,surly germany belgium netherlands are central europe,,,poland ukrain ect the east No mate, their definition of Western Europe, as a genetically identifiable population group is broadly France/Germany/Belgium/Denmark/Holland/Switzerland. Spain and Portugal is classed separately as the Iberian Peninsula and Poland/Ukraine is Eastern Europe I believe. Similarly Finland is lumped in with Western Russia as another European group. The W.Europe group and GB group are very closely linked and often natives from either group share a lot genetically with the other. It shows the 26 groups here on their website (click on 'See all 26 ethnic regions' on the left half way down); https://www.ancestry.co.uk/dna/ There's a degree of overlap of course as population groups (what they wrongly call ethnicity) aren't completely separable. Edited January 5, 2017 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Yes to both of you. So likely 50% German, I'd be happy with that if I was you. Where you have this done and what is the error percentage? I'm not unhappy with it, but I wasn't doing it for any racial purity reasons, LOL. My family is strongly focused in the E.Mid's, historically bang in the middle of the Angle kingdoms and the Danelaw and a few other things made me curious as to our history. I wanted to see if this test reflected any of the regions history with relatively (to my knowledge) few of my ancestors coming from out of the E.Mid's. It was the Ancestry.com test. The errors seem massive to me. So for instance it says I'm 40% W.European in the range of 5-75%! LOL. I'm not sure how they have calculated these errors. Perhaps there's say a 90% chance of the true answer being 5% either side of the estimate and 10% chance of it being beyond that in the extremes. Or maybe they haven't a clue but know it is certainly somewhere between 5 and 75. Similarly it says I'm 12% Irish (read Celtic) in the range of 1-24%. I dunno basically which just comes back to treating this as a broad estimate, not as a precise analysis. Edited January 5, 2017 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,038 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Yes to both of you. So likely 50% German, I'd be happy with that if I was you. Where you have this done and what is the error percentage? I'm not unhappy with it, but I wasn't doing it for any racial purity reasons, LOL. My family is strongly focused in the E.Mid's, historically bang in the middle of the Angle kingdoms and the Danelaw and a few other things made me curious as to our history. I wanted to see if this test reflected any of the regions history with relatively (to my knowledge) few of my ancestors coming from out of the E.Mid's. It was the Ancestry.com test. The errors seem massive to me. So for instance it says I'm 40% W.European in the range of 5-75%! LOL. I'm not sure how they have calculated these errors. Perhaps there's say a 90% chance of the true answer being 5% either side of the estimate and 10% chance of it being beyond that in the extremes. Or maybe they haven't a clue but know it is certainly somewhere between 5 and 75. Similarly it says I'm 12% Irish (read Celtic) in the range of 1-24%. I dunno basically which just comes back to treating this as a broad estimate, not as a precise analysis. on there web page under FAQ it asks how accurate is the test and it does not tell you I think for £ it sounds a bit of a rip off it seems more of a guesstimate to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Take solace in the fact you're not alone... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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