Lakeland , Patterdale And White Lakelands

[Walker21 4]

Was talking to one of the lads I know that keep terriers and he couldn't give me a straight answer so thought I would ask on here ,wat is the difference between the Lakeland and the Patterdale ,and isn't the White Lakeland just a Russell type it might seem like a stupid question but I can't seem to get it answered the lad I asked sed the short haired coloured terriers are patterdales when the wire haired are Lakelands but then there's breedings that throw both types.

 

only generally replys lads cause I'm trying to learn a thing or two many thanks

[Walker21 4]

So there is no actual difference in the breeds ?

[peng 136]

to different lines of dog with one common ancestry

[pablo esc 1,598]

If your dog has lakeland or russel in it !

[neil cooney 10,415]

If a terrier is white (doesn't matter what colour it's parents were) then it's a Jack Russell. if it's typey and rough coated then it's either a Lakeland or a Russell depending on the show you're at. If it's a black and Tan then it's a Lakeland unless of course it's a Fell.

If it's black and smooth then it's a Patterdale but if it's brother is rough coated then he's a black fell. But then again he might be a black Lakeland.

But he might be white with black marking which means the show world is your oyster because he could be a russell, a white lakey or a patterdale which throws up white terriers. If he's black and tan but smooth then he's a patterdale but if his brother is rough coated then he's a Lakeland.

If he's black smooth coated and has a large head then he's a bull cross (even though you might have the line for 40 years) whether you like it or not.

If your line of lakeland starts to produce a few white ones then you can tell the wife you'll be able to afford that diamond ring she's had her eye on and if your line of black terriers starts to produce some chocolates then you can tell her she can have that villa in Spain.

Hope this helps, LOL.

[pablo esc 1,598]

Not really .not for me maybe for other's; only say that through personal experience and what saw and thought in life .and know the reasons behind it. Did see some show work money men about fifteen years ago putting nice looking red lakeland type to black fell show winner working type smart looking (but not same as man with his true black workers) cross the two and had black lakelands

[pablo esc 1,598]

A black and tan could be any cross or dog even russel in it

[pablo esc 1,598]

I saw a .man buy a litter his dog sire patterdale .bitch chocolate fell but staff Russell In It .threw one white pup black.is that a russel.you woud say.in modern times some say white patterdale.but bet you it throw bac out in someones yard even out black dogs

[Walker21 4]

So really it's just wat the owner or breeder wants to call it then

[Bosun11 537]

And this is the very issue with classes in shows...

[hjckcff 1,738]

anything that is predominantly white is a russell. TYPE. it may have lakie or bull or anything else in its linage but if it mostly white its a russell type. i wouldnt worry about the rest they are all shite anyway

[Coursing mad 24 874]

Any one with any knowledge of terriers can see the difference between a like lakeland type and a proper Russell

[Walker21 4]

What about the Sealyhams and there Xs tho do they still fall under the Russell class ?

[Bosun11 537]

Got my classes down for our show;
Lakies (black n tan things)
Borders (otter headed expensive things)
Russell's (white bodied things)
Fell types (anything else!)
Beddy's (poodle blooded things)
Plummer's (copper bodied ratting things)

And that's it... Everything should fall into those categories and if it don't, your just a rosette hunter anyway!

[Walker21 4]

Thank you for the information it's much appreciated ,I'm not really into showing myself tbh I was just trying to get an understanding about the breeds