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My dog started falling short on retrieve about 15 yards or so where he always retrieved live to hand, don't know exactly what it is, but think it was through an injury to be honest.

Working on it all summer to see if it's any different come season but ball or dummy he brings in tidy.

Any suggestions welcome lol

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My fella has started crunching bunnys. As said brings a dummy back no problem. Been taken him out with the air rifle geting him to retrieve them and he seems to be geting the swing of it. Don't know how he will deal with live one though. Wel see?

It don't help having no rabbits about. Atb

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patience is the key, to deal with any dog probs, or anytng really , one i lack of lol

Ray, a quick question to you. I've owned a GSD bitch many years ago, but never a pure collie. I've had various lurchers with a fair bit of collie in, but never a 1st x. Is buck a more forgiving/easier dog to handle than bryn, both being 1st x's? :thumbs:

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Problems i have with my beddy whippet bitch are she wont retrieve rabbits, she pins them to the ground live, if i give her some time to see if shes going to retrieve it, she kills it and then refuses to touch it. Shes has absolutly no interest in the dummy rabbit anymore or anything dead. She used to retrieve the dummy perfect but never the real thing. She only ever retrieved a rabbit live once. The other problem she has is if she has a couple of misses, when she does catch she kills straight away out of frustration and when she gets the scent of anything she pulls like a bull terrier on the lead. Still working on her training but she has so many wee quirks shes very hard work to train at times.

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i see alot of people do dummy training, imo its a load of bollocks as there is no substitute for the real thing.

 

i always give my pups a rabbit skin with the head still attached to play with for a couple of minutes once or twice a week. i do no retrieve training with it just let them mouth it for a short time just to get use to the fur and to know they are allowed them in there mouths. i work on the retrieve training whilst out in the field whilst lamping.

 

ive had dogs retrieve eggs that i roll down the garden without breaking them and been told thats the sign of a soft mouthed dog, only to find that once they catch a rabbit they smash it to shit.

 

edited to say some dogs just wont retrieve no matter what you try

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The only problem I've got at the moment worth a mention is my younger dog, he will find fox and horse excrement and roll himself to high heaven in it. Can be pain at times. I've never owned a dog that did this.

 

It is a game of patience and good tactics, stick with it RD, I'm sure your beddy will come through.

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My dog started falling short on retrieve about 15 yards or so where he always retrieved live to hand, don't know exactly what it is, but think it was through an injury to be honest.

Working on it all summer to see if it's any different come season but ball or dummy he brings in tidy.

Any suggestions welcome lol

Use to be a problem I had all the time with different dog so I knew it was something I was doing wrong.

I was shown by a friend and good dogman who we all will know not to take the rabbit from the dog so soon and instead to gently pull the dog in close to me and make a fuss for a while before asking for the rabbit. It worked a treat.

If they drop short on dummy I have a little tug of war to make them hold onto it then through dummy and start doing what I mentioned above.

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My brindle bitch retrieved perfect as a pup then one day she just stopped coming all the way in and stands off with it. She's been doing it for 3 years now. Lol. They are very much alive though, very soft mouthed.

 

Pup runs back to me with rabbits and puts them in my hand but she's very hard mouthed and then wants to play tug of war with the rabbit. Safe to say her rabbits never make the table.

 

You can't have everything. Haha

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Trigger, Iv got to agree there as Iv seen couple of dogs retrieve anything except rabbits lol

Mine retrieved up until 2 year old then now stopped but as I said, the night he stopped retrieving the night he tore is shoulder, could of been that.

it may well have been that. you might find that you can never make that last few yards back with the dog now. but at the end of the day it could be a damn sight worse than 15 yds. just enjoy the dog for what he is they all have there faults.

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patience is the key, to deal with any dog probs, or anytng really , one i lack of lol

Ray, a quick question to you. I've owned a GSD bitch many years ago, but never a pure collie. I've had various lurchers with a fair bit of collie in, but never a 1st x. Is buck a more forgiving/easier dog to handle than bryn, both being 1st x's? :thumbs:

 

being honest , there both of a sensitive nature, so both same in that way, you have treat them with kid gloves . But prob Bryn the worse really, if you just look at him wrong, you may as well take him home, where as Buck just wants to hunt day/night, even in pain or if you give him a bollocking lol, he more full on temp in the hunting mode, than what Bryn is. if that makes sense :yes:

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patience is the key, to deal with any dog probs, or anytng really , one i lack of lol

Ray, a quick question to you. I've owned a GSD bitch many years ago, but never a pure collie. I've had various lurchers with a fair bit of collie in, but never a 1st x. Is buck a more forgiving/easier dog to handle than bryn, both being 1st x's? :thumbs:

 

being honest , there both of a sensitive nature, so both same in that way, you have treat them with kid gloves . But prob Bryn the worse really, if you just look at him wrong, you may as well take him home, where as Buck just wants to hunt day/night, even in pain or if you give him a bollocking lol, he more full on temp in the hunting mode, than what Bryn is. if that makes sense :yes:

 

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