Do You Support Junior Doctors Strike

[Born Hunter 17,909]

 

For me it has nothing to do with it being a noble or respectable profession.....i just see the job of a Doctor being worth more than the starting salary

 

I take into account the years of studies they must do before they even start

 

I know I wouldn't put in the hours and have peoples lives in my hands for that type of money

Good post.

 

£24k is a joke. Regardless of what they may progress to in later years. They have got bills to pay now, not to mention what their student loans must be like.

 

 

What must their student loans be like? That's the problem with this, everyone thinks they know what these junior doctors deserve without really knowing what the crack is. Their student loans will be of absolutely no concern, trust me.

[Born Hunter 17,909]

For me it has nothing to do with it being a noble or respectable profession.....i just see the job of a Doctor being worth more than the starting salary

 

I take into account the years of studies they must do before they even start

 

I know I wouldn't put in the hours and have peoples lives in my hands for that type of money

 

But again, so what? You think it's not worth it. Look at the situation more generally, clearly plenty of med students do think its worth it, otherwise they'd have used their academic abilities to pursue another career. If we face a shortfall of med students and it's clear to conclude that is as a result of too low a starting salary then I agree it should be raised. But as things stand is that true? Other than folks believing that they deserve more with little reason other than 'they do'.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

 

For me it has nothing to do with it being a noble or respectable profession.....i just see the job of a Doctor being worth more than the starting salary

 

I take into account the years of studies they must do before they even start

 

I know I wouldn't put in the hours and have peoples lives in my hands for that type of money

Good post.

 

£24k is a joke. Regardless of what they may progress to in later years. They have got bills to pay now, not to mention what their student loans must be like.

What must their student loans be like? That's the problem with this, everyone thinks they know what these junior doctors deserve without really knowing what the crack is. Their student loans will be of absolutely no concern, trust me.

Ok I trust you ?

[kanny 21,630]

I think people in General are disillusioned at just how wet behind the ears first year student doctor's are there pretty much only fit for taking blood pressure 'temperature and if there uber confident giving injections under supervision. ..with me having a fairly rare condition its like having special case study stamped on my head so I've had plenty of experience with them and helped a couple out by agreeing to be a case study.

[Born Hunter 17,909]

 

 

 

For me it has nothing to do with it being a noble or respectable profession.....i just see the job of a Doctor being worth more than the starting salary

I take into account the years of studies they must do before they even start

I know I wouldn't put in the hours and have peoples lives in my hands for that type of money

Good post.

£24k is a joke. Regardless of what they may progress to in later years. They have got bills to pay now, not to mention what their student loans must be like.

What must their student loans be like? That's the problem with this, everyone thinks they know what these junior doctors deserve without really knowing what the crack is. Their student loans will be of absolutely no concern, trust me.

Ok I trust you

LOL I'll take that in the absence of any response of substance.

[ginger beard 4,653]

it's not the junior doctors that are the problem,there being led up the garden path by the b4stard unions.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

 

 

For me it has nothing to do with it being a noble or respectable profession.....i just see the job of a Doctor being worth more than the starting salary

I take into account the years of studies they must do before they even start

I know I wouldn't put in the hours and have peoples lives in my hands for that type of money

Good post.

£24k is a joke. Regardless of what they may progress to in later years. They have got bills to pay now, not to mention what their student loans must be like.

What must their student loans be like? That's the problem with this, everyone thinks they know what these junior doctors deserve without really knowing what the crack is. Their student loans will be of absolutely no concern, trust me.

Ok I trust you

LOL I'll take that in the absence of any response of substance.

But you haven't offered a response of substance yourself have you?

 

You've just posted your own opinion followed by "trust me"...

[kanny 21,630]

Student loan repayments ......You only start repaying your loan once you've graduated and you're earning more than £21,000 a year. After that, you'll pay back 9% of anything you earn over £21,000. So if you're earning £26,000 a year, you'll lose £450 in loan repayments - £37.50 each month.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Student loan repayments ......You only start repaying your loan once you've graduated and you're earning more than £21,000 a year. After that, you'll pay back 9% of anything you earn over £21,000. So if you're earning £26,000 a year, you'll lose £450 in loan repayments - £37.50 each month.

I wasn't referring to the monthly repayments so much as the idea of it. X amount of years studying, massive debt hanging over you, long hours at work plus extra studying on top etc, all to earn a piss poor wage.

[Born Hunter 17,909]

 

 

 

 

 

For me it has nothing to do with it being a noble or respectable profession.....i just see the job of a Doctor being worth more than the starting salary

I take into account the years of studies they must do before they even start

I know I wouldn't put in the hours and have peoples lives in my hands for that type of money

Good post.

£24k is a joke. Regardless of what they may progress to in later years. They have got bills to pay now, not to mention what their student loans must be like.

What must their student loans be like? That's the problem with this, everyone thinks they know what these junior doctors deserve without really knowing what the crack is. Their student loans will be of absolutely no concern, trust me.

Ok I trust you

LOL I'll take that in the absence of any response of substance.

But you haven't offered a response of substance yourself have you?

You've just posted your own opinion followed by "trust me"...

I understand how student loans work and why they are not a concern. So forgive me for not detailing that and just pointing out the significance of it. I credited you with at least knowing the details as well. And considering I have direct experience I think it's reasonable that I can speak from a position of relative authority. That's considerably more substantial a point than the 12 year olds one you gave. Why force a discussion on a forum to such childish levels? I wasn't trying to demean you, simply have a gentlemanly and reasonable debate.

[Born Hunter 17,909]

Gaz, maybe we've had a bit of a misunderstanding mate. Apologies if ive got your back up. You're a good lad, I don't want to carry on tit for tat. By all means respond to what I have said I just don't want this to deteriorate as is the way on here.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

 

 

 

 

For me it has nothing to do with it being a noble or respectable profession.....i just see the job of a Doctor being worth more than the starting salary

I take into account the years of studies they must do before they even start

I know I wouldn't put in the hours and have peoples lives in my hands for that type of money

Good post.

£24k is a joke. Regardless of what they may progress to in later years. They have got bills to pay now, not to mention what their student loans must be like.

What must their student loans be like? That's the problem with this, everyone thinks they know what these junior doctors deserve without really knowing what the crack is. Their student loans will be of absolutely no concern, trust me.

Ok I trust you

LOL I'll take that in the absence of any response of substance.

But you haven't offered a response of substance yourself have you?

You've just posted your own opinion followed by "trust me"...

I understand how student loans work and why they are not a concern. So forgive me for not detailing that and just pointing out the significance of it. I credited you with at least knowing the details as well. And considering I have direct experience I think it's reasonable that I can speak from a position of relative authority. That's considerably more substantial a point than the 12 year olds one you gave. Why force a discussion on a forum to such childish levels? I wasn't trying to demean you, simply have a gentlemanly and reasonable debate.

I've simply questioned why we should "trust you" when you offered your opinion along with the rest.

 

Had you come on and said "I'm a junior doctor and know how this works" then I wouldn't have questioned it. You offered nothing except your opinion and "trust me".

 

If you think that's "forcing a discussion to childish levels" then I can't help you.

[stealthy1 3,964]

A bunch of spoiled brats, if you don't like the job, f**k off and let some one else who's more dedicated do it.

[Born Hunter 17,909]

With respect, junior doctors aren't the only ones that have student loans. Childish behaviour is laughing at someone's comments in derision, personally I find that behaviour amusing but it's still unnecessary and is the cause of ninety percent of the pathetic tit for tat arguments on here. By all means carry on behaving that way...

 

As I said, let's move past that.

Edited April 26, 2016 by Born Hunter

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

With respect, junior doctors aren't the only ones that have student loans. Childish behaviour is laughing at someone's comments in derision, personally I find that behaviour amusing but it's still unnecessary and is the cause of ninety percent of the pathetic tit for tat arguments on here. By all means carry on behaving that way...

You must have led a sheltered life my friend if laughing at someone's comments in derision is childish.

 

And this place definitely isn't for you. Lol

 

Thanks for clearing up your voice of authority, you've got a student loan.