Boxing At The Weekend...

[downsouth 8,525]

6 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

What if he knew/believed he hadnt cheated ?.....bin him regardless ?

Do you for one minute believe that hearn honestly thought that he was innocent because I dont.If that had of been a non matchroom fighter Hearne,Bellew and all the othe matchroom chronies would have been screaming for an instant ban.

[gnasher16 31,863]

3 hours ago, downsouth said:

Do you for one minute believe that hearn honestly thought that he was innocent because I dont.If that had of been a non matchroom fighter Hearne,Bellew and all the othe matchroom chronies would have been screaming for an instant ban.

It doesnt matter what i believe im just asking the question,what if he knew for a fact/believed him 100%........bin him anyway ?

[gnasher16 31,863]

10 hours ago, mC HULL said:

What's not ? 

Test levels they can be 4 times the normal mans can't they ? 

You are talking about the T/E thresholds,thats not the same as elevated Test levels.....nobody gains anything !

[mC HULL 18,155]

7 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

You are talking about the T/E thresholds,thats not the same as elevated Test levels.....nobody gains anything !

I thought normal.is like 300 and there allowed 1000 .

The t/e ratio is what i was talking about aswell wouldn't that have an effect ?

Nandralone can lower test cant it ? Could that be why fury was using it or more likely to.just get benefits from the nandralone you'd think.l he  would have access to harder stuff to detect 

Edited Monday at 22:53 by mC HULL

[gnasher16 31,863]

10 hours ago, mC HULL said:

You didn't mess about gnash your sparring the top.of the tree there 

Never fought any big names but fought them.2 a few times a week got to been a be worse then a fight with tyson  

It was no picnic mate but it was all about the dough for me and having a good manager i could make more doing that than actual fights.... some of the most brutal fights ive ever seen took place in gyms with spars that got out of hand i remember seeing Dennis Andries and Denton Ruddock nearly kill each other one time ....Errol Christie and Prince Rodney was another one.....even more recently George Groves v Billam Smith....Eubank Jnr v Pat Mendy.....absolute gym wars.....the gypsy kid Dennis,i forget his second name now had a really nasty spar with Prince Patel in the old Trad gym in Canning Town a few years back......yes sparring can certainly get rough at times.

Edited Monday at 23:02 by gnasher16

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30 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

I thought normal.is like 300 and there allowed 1000 .

The t/e ratio is what i was talking about aswell wouldn't that have an effect ?

Nandralone can lower test cant it ? Could that be why fury was using it or more likely to.just get benefits from the nandralone you'd think.l he  would have access to harder stuff to detect 

Normal is 300 - 1000 so up to as much as 4000 wont necessary be flagged up as elevated but its normally unusually low test levels where fighters get caught out as its obvious they are using masking agents......its an incredibly complicated field that even the fighters themselves are just being advised and same as anything else some advice is better than others.

[mC HULL 18,155]

34 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

It was no picnic mate but it was all about the dough for me and having a good manager i could make more doing that than actual fights.... some of the most brutal fights ive ever seen took place in gyms with spars that got out of hand i remember seeing Dennis Andries and Denton Ruddock nearly kill each other one time ....Errol Christie and Prince Rodney was another one.....even more recently George Groves v Billam Smith....Eubank Jnr v Pat Mendy.....absolute gym wars.....the gypsy kid Dennis,i forget his second name now had a really nasty spar with Prince Patel in the old Trad gym in Canning Town a few years back......yes sparring can certainly get rough at times.

 Mason and Bruno both huge punchers gnash Bruno.went all the way did Mason lose to.many apart from Lewis? Who was the better all-round fighter if both got the same push you'd think fury had pillows in his gloves if you sparred him aye 

Would younsay there's as many wars in the gyn as ther was 30.year ago ?

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

 Mason and Bruno both huge punchers gnash Bruno.went all the way did Mason lose to.many apart from Lewis? Who was the better all-round fighter if both got the same push you'd think fury had pillows in his gloves if you sparred him aye 

Would younsay there's as many wars in the gyn as ther was 30.year ago ?

 

 

 

Im pretty sure Lewis was Garys only loss,i always said id rather spar 10 rounds with Bruno than 2 rounds with Gary......Mason kept things simple but he was a destructive puncher with fast hands whereas Frank had slow feet and was more predictable with his movement.....in all honesty i think Gary was the better fighter but of course Frank had the backing of the nation and he did great.

Proper gym wars are few and far between now compared to years ago,fighters are protected too much these days quite often with some of these young lads the first real tear up they have is in an actual fight....we was only laughing the other week about how many young fighters are starting their pro careers with a perfectly straight nose .....didnt happen in our day you'd have had a few hard battles in the gym before your career had even started.

Edited to add...im not sure if its on Youtube or not but try and watch Gary Masons fight with Jess Harding i helped him prepare for that fight must have been 88 or 89 i was sat ringside and actually thought he'd killed him....Gary was a handful alright.

Edited yesterday at 00:57 by gnasher16

[pesky1972 5,882]

4 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

im not sure if its on Youtube or not but try and watch Gary Masons fight with Jess Harding i helped him prepare for that fight must have been 88 or 89 i was sat ringside and actually thought he'd killed him....Gary was a handful alright.

Ooft…, rather you than me  

 

[mC HULL 18,155]

6 hours ago, pesky1972 said:

Ooft…, rather you than me  

 

I want to know truthfully when masons practising that pull back counter with that cross or worse uppercut did it have you hesitating  to throw gnasher ? Quick with that  for 17 stone plus 

[downsouth 8,525]

On 23/02/2026 at 23:39, mC HULL said:

 Mason and Bruno both huge punchers gnash Bruno.went all the way did Mason lose to.many apart from Lewis? Who was the better all-round fighter if both got the same push you'd think fury had pillows in his gloves if you sparred him aye 

Would younsay there's as many wars in the gyn as ther was 30.year ago ?

 

 

 

I built an extension for a big old lump from the Welsh valleys who was living in Margate about 15years ago and was running a rough old boozer on the seafront and Margate amateur boxing club.We got chatting after he was telling me and my pal that he was putting on a night and bringing a few lads down from a valley club to box some lads from thanet and had Steve collins coming down to do a bit of a QandA and gave us a a couple of tickets.I mentioned a couple of well known boxers I knew up there through the dogs and that my pals kids were all doing very well as amateurs and it turned out that he grew up as a kid right next door to my pal.Anyway it turned out he was an ex pro and had boxed all the British heavyweights you mentioned along with Joe Bugnar and a few others,Said he retired after lennox detatched his retina with a thumb in the eye.Funnily enough I remember him saying Gary Mason was a really hard puncher.

[mC HULL 18,155]

2 hours ago, downsouth said:

I built an extension for a big old lump from the Welsh valleys who was living in Margate about 15years ago and was running a rough old boozer on the seafront and Margate amateur boxing club.We got chatting after he was telling me and my pal that he was putting on a night and bringing a few lads down from a valley club to box some lads from thanet and had Steve collins coming down to do a bit of a QandA and gave us a a couple of tickets.I mentioned a couple of well known boxers I knew up there through the dogs and that my pals kids were all doing very well as amateurs and it turned out that he grew up as a kid right next door to my pal.Anyway it turned out he was an ex pro and had boxed all the British heavyweights you mentioned along with Joe Bugnar and a few others,Said he retired after lennox detatched his retina with a thumb in the eye.Funnily enough I remember him saying Gary Mason was a really hard puncher.

I think Lewis did that to Mason aswell didn't he injured  his eye 

Makes you smile really when younger i thought Lewis was a bit chinny but looking back he traded with some huge punchers didnt he 

 

[mC HULL 18,155]

Speaking eye pokes paddy's was bad hes gonna have a dozen fresh scratches floaters next time.its sunny  

He got a bad poke right hand that  dropped him 3 elbows to the  head whilr its bouncing off the floor and he still.rode it out  

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On 24/02/2026 at 10:50, mC HULL said:

I want to know truthfully when masons practising that pull back counter with that cross or worse uppercut did it have you hesitating  to throw gnasher ? Quick with that  for 17 stone plus 

Preparing for a fight isnt the same sparring as when you havent got a fight date its more about sharpening up,getting the reflexes up etc so we would of had the big 18 or even 20 oz gloves on so no damage is done but he had a good array of punches and they all got your attention,i could take a really good shot back then and was very rarely off my feet but in normal day to day sparring yes you was always wary of trading up with Gary.

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On 24/02/2026 at 04:33, pesky1972 said:

Ooft…, rather you than me  

 

i don't know if it's just the way it's filmed but does that ring look small