Boxing At The Weekend...

[downsouth 8,524]

6 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

What if he knew/believed he hadnt cheated ?.....bin him regardless ?

Do you for one minute believe that hearn honestly thought that he was innocent because I dont.If that had of been a non matchroom fighter Hearne,Bellew and all the othe matchroom chronies would have been screaming for an instant ban.

[gnasher16 31,847]

3 hours ago, downsouth said:

Do you for one minute believe that hearn honestly thought that he was innocent because I dont.If that had of been a non matchroom fighter Hearne,Bellew and all the othe matchroom chronies would have been screaming for an instant ban.

It doesnt matter what i believe im just asking the question,what if he knew for a fact/believed him 100%........bin him anyway ?

[gnasher16 31,847]

10 hours ago, mC HULL said:

What's not ? 

Test levels they can be 4 times the normal mans can't they ? 

You are talking about the T/E thresholds,thats not the same as elevated Test levels.....nobody gains anything !

[mC HULL 18,154]

7 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

You are talking about the T/E thresholds,thats not the same as elevated Test levels.....nobody gains anything !

I thought normal.is like 300 and there allowed 1000 .

The t/e ratio is what i was talking about aswell wouldn't that have an effect ?

Nandralone can lower test cant it ? Could that be why fury was using it or more likely to.just get benefits from the nandralone you'd think.l he  would have access to harder stuff to detect 

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[gnasher16 31,847]

10 hours ago, mC HULL said:

You didn't mess about gnash your sparring the top.of the tree there 

Never fought any big names but fought them.2 a few times a week got to been a be worse then a fight with tyson  

It was no picnic mate but it was all about the dough for me and having a good manager i could make more doing that than actual fights.... some of the most brutal fights ive ever seen took place in gyms with spars that got out of hand i remember seeing Dennis Andries and Denton Ruddock nearly kill each other one time ....Errol Christie and Prince Rodney was another one.....even more recently George Groves v Billam Smith....Eubank Jnr v Pat Mendy.....absolute gym wars.....the gypsy kid Dennis,i forget his second name now had a really nasty spar with Prince Patel in the old Trad gym in Canning Town a few years back......yes sparring can certainly get rough at times.

Edited 8 hours ago by gnasher16

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30 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

I thought normal.is like 300 and there allowed 1000 .

The t/e ratio is what i was talking about aswell wouldn't that have an effect ?

Nandralone can lower test cant it ? Could that be why fury was using it or more likely to.just get benefits from the nandralone you'd think.l he  would have access to harder stuff to detect 

Normal is 300 - 1000 so up to as much as 4000 wont necessary be flagged up as elevated but its normally unusually low test levels where fighters get caught out as its obvious they are using masking agents......its an incredibly complicated field that even the fighters themselves are just being advised and same as anything else some advice is better than others.

[mC HULL 18,154]

34 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

It was no picnic mate but it was all about the dough for me and having a good manager i could make more doing that than actual fights.... some of the most brutal fights ive ever seen took place in gyms with spars that got out of hand i remember seeing Dennis Andries and Denton Ruddock nearly kill each other one time ....Errol Christie and Prince Rodney was another one.....even more recently George Groves v Billam Smith....Eubank Jnr v Pat Mendy.....absolute gym wars.....the gypsy kid Dennis,i forget his second name now had a really nasty spar with Prince Patel in the old Trad gym in Canning Town a few years back......yes sparring can certainly get rough at times.

 Mason and Bruno both huge punchers gnash Bruno.went all the way did Mason lose to.many apart from Lewis? Who was the better all-round fighter if both got the same push you'd think fury had pillows in his gloves if you sparred him aye 

Would younsay there's as many wars in the gyn as ther was 30.year ago ?

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

 Mason and Bruno both huge punchers gnash Bruno.went all the way did Mason lose to.many apart from Lewis? Who was the better all-round fighter if both got the same push you'd think fury had pillows in his gloves if you sparred him aye 

Would younsay there's as many wars in the gyn as ther was 30.year ago ?

 

 

 

Im pretty sure Lewis was Garys only loss,i always said id rather spar 10 rounds with Bruno than 2 rounds with Gary......Mason kept things simple but he was a destructive puncher with fast hands whereas Frank had slow feet and was more predictable with his movement.....in all honesty i think Gary was the better fighter but of course Frank had the backing of the nation and he did great.

Proper gym wars are few and far between now compared to years ago,fighters are protected too much these days quite often with some of these young lads the first real tear up they have is in an actual fight....we was only laughing the other week about how many young fighters are starting their pro careers with a perfectly straight nose .....didnt happen in our day you'd have had a few hard battles in the gym before your career had even started.

Edited to add...im not sure if its on Youtube or not but try and watch Gary Masons fight with Jess Harding i helped him prepare for that fight must have been 88 or 89 i was sat ringside and actually thought he'd killed him....Gary was a handful alright.

Edited 6 hours ago by gnasher16

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4 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

im not sure if its on Youtube or not but try and watch Gary Masons fight with Jess Harding i helped him prepare for that fight must have been 88 or 89 i was sat ringside and actually thought he'd killed him....Gary was a handful alright.

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