Boxing At The Weekend...

[NEWKID 28,342]

1 minute ago, dodger said:

Glad you enjoyed I thought Dubois did ok and usyk had already hurt him in the second aswell as frustrating him throughout with how good he seemed to have an answer for everything you had a good seat then..

Tony Bellew has said for years he mentally fatigues you, Dubois's brain is probably still hurting lol

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9 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

It's like Teddy Atlas says about M Tyson when he talks about his inner doubt. Tyson never really believed he was the man who could beat anybody and that's essential..that ego, that confidence, that never say enough is enough. Dubois is  exactly the same. Brilliant  physical specimen, same as M Tyson.but no real confidence. He could have got up before the count, he walked straight immediately after he'd been counted out.. He'd had enough.

Guys like Joe Frazier really didn't have any quit in them.

Danny, like Tyson is haunted by inner doubt.

But, Tyson did actually go out on his shield in many of his bouts, he was beaten half to death by Douglas and still tried to beat the count. At some point though the fire to win went out, I mean he even took his licks like a man against Lewis when he was a shell of his former self, but, he gave up hope of winning after a few rounds.

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1 minute ago, Seagull said:

But, Tyson did actually go out on his shield in many of his bouts, he was beaten half to death by Douglas and still tried to beat the count. At some point though the fire to win went out, I mean he even took his licks like a man against Lewis when he was a shell of his former self, but, he gave up hope of winning after a few rounds.

Tbf that's true. But there were occasions when he simply lost it and  became hysterical. For example when he had a  meltdown and bit Holyfield's ear. Similarly when he bit Lewis before their fight. And don't forget he quit on his arse against a journeyman. He was a good fighter but not a real fighter. Real deals have a different mentality.

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15 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

Tony Bellew has said for years he mentally fatigues you, Dubois's brain is probably still hurting lol

Lol true but they had a game plan but even you said usyk had an ancewer for everything plus he had to go after him but go in to hard or fast n get caught with a counter couldn't keep him on the ropes usykes timing on point dammed if he does dammed if don't plus I don't think he expected the power early on he looked hurt in round 2.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

Yeah thought the undercard was shit mate, but the atmosphere looked good for the main event, and as you say Usyk didn't disappoint... top 5 you say! Technically possibly the best, but I'm not sure on top 5... I'd of love to seen him in either the 70s or 90s eras just to see some of those matcg ups..

I would agree with top 5. 100%. He's been an eye opener . It's not often you get a real technician at heavyweight. He just does everything right.  Proper training camps. No trash talking. Conducts himself with  dignity , unlike like that national embarrassment Fury. He's been a  breath of fresh air.

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I think vitali klitchko would've been a good test for usyk 

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4 minutes ago, dodger said:

I think vitali klitchko would've been a good test for usyk 

A very underrated fighter and a stylistic nightmare for almost everyone.

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3 minutes ago, dodger said:

I think vitali klitchko would've been a good test for usyk 

Funny enough I was just thinking the same. Lennox Lewis struggled big time against VT.

Lewis would be in my top 5 of all time too. Stupid really, but I would love to have seen Usyk against Frazier and Ali.  

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On 19/07/2025 at 23:23, dodger said:

A mate text that went he said it tells you something when half the fans in the stadium that were dubois fans are shouting usyk at the end not because they'd turned there backs on dubois he'd put in a good performance and done his best but because everyone there had witnessed something special that they'll never forget in there lives breathtaking performance amazing atmosphere..

Dubois had probably 70% of the support....Usyk was actually getting booed on his ring walk he had pockets of fans all around the stadium but by the end it was just genuine respect towards Usyk.....i said to my pal it reminded me of Rocky 5 was it when all the Russians end up cheering for Rocky instead of their man Drago 

I thought it was quite refreshing to be honest,knowledgeable crowds know when they've seen somebody special its the way it should be.

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4 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Funny enough I was just thinking the same. Lennox Lewis struggled big time against VT.

Lewis would be in my top 5 of all time too. Stupid really, but I would love to have seen Usyk against Frazier and Ali.  

I think Frazier would have given him hell tbh, the smaller and faster HW's would have done better IMO.

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1 minute ago, gnasher16 said:

Dubois had probably 70% of the support....Usyk was actually getting booed on his ring walk he had pockets of fans all around the stadium but by the end it was just genuine respect towards Usyk.....i said to my pal it reminded me of Rocky 5 was it when all the Russians end up cheering for Rocky instead of their man Drago 

I thought it was quite refreshing to be honest,knowledgeable crowds know when they've seen somebody special its the way it should be.

You used to get that at football. An opposing player scores a worldie and everybody in the ground would clap. Sometimes, not often , a home team  would be totally outclassed and home fans would give  a standing ovation at the end of the game.

 Nothing wrong with getting beat as a boxer or a team and saying " fair enough, you won fair and square."

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5 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Dubois had probably 70% of the support....Usyk was actually getting booed on his ring walk he had pockets of fans all around the stadium but by the end it was just genuine respect towards Usyk.....i said to my pal it reminded me of Rocky 5 was it when all the Russians end up cheering for Rocky instead of their man Drago 

I thought it was quite refreshing to be honest,knowledgeable crowds know when they've seen somebody special its the way it should be.

They didn't have your seats you must have been close to Statham n Jake Paul lol 

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10 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Funny enough I was just thinking the same. Lennox Lewis struggled big time against VT.

Lewis would be in my top 5 of all time too. Stupid really, but I would love to have seen Usyk against Frazier and Ali.  

Great fight that vt was pissed

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Gives me goosebumps this bout, it simply is the Fight of the Century. Both men left everything in the ring, it almost killed Frazier who spent several weeks in hospital afterwards.

 

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4 minutes ago, Seagull said:

Gives me goosebumps this bout, it simply is the Fight of the Century. Both men left everything in the ring, it almost killed Frazier who spent several weeks in hospital afterwards.

 

I must have spent weeks of my life watching the trilogy over and over. Still give  me goosebumps. I haven't got words to describe my admiration for both men.