ftm 3,357 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I dont think the russians would admit to It being shot down by isis but if it has --theirdays are numbered Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,518 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if it was shot down that it was a Russian ordered missile that did it ...to tin foil? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIK 4,763 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I flew back from Singapore the same day the MH17 was shot down over Ukraine ...it was a BA flight to Heathrow and when we got on board the captain announce d that the flights take off was delayed 30 mins as we had to take a detour as they were not flying over the war zone ....shit like that makes you think what if we had flown over Ukraine....I have 3 flights to Brunei tomorrow and you just have to get on with it ....the bills need paid 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if it was shot down that it was a Russian ordered missile that did it ...to tin foil? I think you're going a bit far there Kanny, no government would kill its own people/ aid and assist an enemy to kill their people just as an excuse to attack/invade another country to further their political and financial interests, not one case ever 100% proven mate Its bad enough when a plane goes wrong and its nobody's fault, but you've got to be a proper animal to shoot a plane full of civvy's down, knowing kids are involved as well, how the f**k do you live with that? RIP the victims. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,276 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 cant imagine what it must be like to be on a plane when its shot,down id imagine you would not know much about it Actually I think the opposite ,,,some might be killed quick ,,,but I bet the majority weren't .... I'm led to believe them SAF missiles detonate befor they hit the plane,,and it's the shrapnel that downs the plane,,,,I bet born hunter knows ... So it wouldn't surprise me if some folk are alive befor they hit the deck,,,or possibly unconscious with the altitude... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 cant imagine what it must be like to be on a plane when its shot,down id imagine you would not know much about it Actually I think the opposite ,,,some might be killed quick ,,,but I bet the majority weren't .... I'm led to believe them SAF missiles detonate befor they hit the plane,,and it's the shrapnel that downs the plane,,,,I bet born hunter knows ... So it wouldn't surprise me if some folk are alive befor they hit the deck,,,or possibly unconscious with the altitude... only the last inch of the fall would hurt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 cant imagine what it must be like to be on a plane when its shot,down id imagine you would not know much about it Actually I think the opposite ,,,some might be killed quick ,,,but I bet the majority weren't .... I'm led to believe them SAF missiles detonate befor they hit the plane,,and it's the shrapnel that downs the plane,,,,I bet born hunter knows ... So it wouldn't surprise me if some folk are alive befor they hit the deck,,,or possibly unconscious with the altitude... Some need a direct hit, some have a proximity fuse and detonate when within a certain range. There's multiple systems.... but they still reckon it was a bomb on the plane from what I've read. At 40k feet it's out the range of most MANPADs, they'd have needed a fairly decent bit of kit which isn't easily smuggled around... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,440 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Not seen my mate the Ayatollah on here lately.......could the two things have a very dubious connection? I like to think so ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Whatever has happened one this is for sure. . . . . it's going to get real messy. Russia are not know for their tolerance or for playing by the 'rules of war'. . . . . when they get serious out there. . . . .que some major war crimes etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,551 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Russia and China are a threat and both big old units o two ways about it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crowsnest 55 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 i would'nt put it past vlad to have had someone put something on board himself,justify him going in real hard now and makes him look good 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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