Undervalued To Their Host Country?

[WILF 50,237]

As I have always said, we need to sort ourselves out a bit.

I watched 4 lads last year, 3 Eastern Europeans and a big black lad carry sheets of plaster board upto the 6th floor by the stairs.....they had it unloaded from a truck and up in just under an hour carrying it 4 sheets at a time on their backs.

This is all they did all day, went round London unloading plasterboard.....soon as they had finished they were off to the next to do it all over again.

Now that is collar, and there ain't many English lads would do it I am afraid.

If you don't I have much education (like me) then I am afraid your only option is to graft and if your better than the other bloke then you will be working and he won't.....simple as that!

[mushroom 14,097]

Completely agree wilf, seen it myself polish guy taking a bite of his sandwich and carrying on working while I'm stopped having a lunch break.

 

My girlfriend speaks 6 languages 5 at a native level has a degree and a masters. She started working for this company in Argentina and was basically poached by one of the bosses, brought to barca and had her salary doubled... Why?? Because she made herself indispensable to the company!

 

I have lazy as fuuck mates who are still doing the same shit they were doing in 1997. They complain at me and bitch because I moved away to barca. What they forget is I moved away at 17 and made my life better while they sat on their arse doing fook all, smoking weed all day long.

Edited August 11, 2015 by mushroom

[WILF 50,237]

Weed is an epidemic with the young people in this country mate, they can't leave off.

My pal had a job at the Olympic park then other week.....told his blokes 10 days before that they would be drug and drink testing on site on the day (as they do there).......4 lads went, 3 failed and got sent right back out the gate.

When asked they said "well we only had a little joint on the way to work!!".......I mean FFS, how f***ing dumb do you have to be!!

One fencing firm didn't bother to turn up at all cause they knew none of their lads would pass !!

 

These will be the same lads complaining about "immigrants nicking our jobs"........c**ts dont deserve to work IMHO

[mushroom 14,097]

I smoke weed mate; funny thing is my global MD knows it and doesn't give a fuuck tbf but... I don't smoke at work, I rarely smoke during the week anymore and I don't let it rule my life. I get given all the senior/high value projects at work because they trust I can do the job with a clear head and show results.

 

If someone wants to smoke before going into one of the most dangerous areas of work possible then they don't deserve the job, they're a feckin liability!

[neems 2,406]

 

 

I don't see why so many have a problem with them we have about 200 in are town they all work in the fishy or on farms local they don't come in trying too change anything sure when they first got here there was a few good scraps between locals and poles thinking they were hard man type they soon got dealt with but the rest are nice and friendly always smile and wave the fact folk think that they steal jobs is a load of pish every one hits a bad run of luck every now and then but if your not willing too put the time in looking for one you won't get one you just got too be willing too work some are just lazy b*****ds and in a small town like this every one knows every one and too my knowledge there is only one pole on the dole here out of the 200 and that's cos he married a local and even the poles don't like him and I've got more native friends that are on the dole every other week then the poles hell even a couple of local lads are going out with some of them I've always found them a good lot too be honest I've had more hassle from rich English folk that move up here then poles hell I had one English woman try too tell me not too put my net out in the bay the other week cos she dint like me spoiling her view she got told not so politely too f**k off there was even I story I heard a while ago where an English couple were asking how they could get the pipe band too stop playing the music so loud

they do steal jobs from British workers,as well as bring down the price of labour i.e your wages.

 

it's nothing personal,but them being here is detrimental to the vast majority of us.

Not the VAST MAJORITY at all. Unfortunately they are a detriment to low skilled workers or labourers , or semi skilled manual workers like those in the building trade.

 

I assume you are in this field ?

 

Obviously they will take jobs off British workers , problem is alot complain they can't get British workers who'll do a proper days graft, or who won't rip them off or do a shite job.

 

Many people who employ or get work done by poles think they are a great benefit not a detriment. Depends what side you are on.

 

There are also many skilled and highly trained immigrants in employment here. The large amount of doctors, opticians and nurses are Asian or similar. They seem to have a cultural idea to raise their kids with the idea that they need to work hard, education is pushed as highly important, they come from countries with very poor benefits systems so you pretty much either sink or swim.

 

We do have people who genuinely need help but there's so many lazy, worthless tossers having a free ride, or simply topping up their pay that it causes resentment between those in work and those out of work.

 

 

You can easily find British workers who'll work hard and do a good job,just not for £7 an hour.

 

That's where our Eastern European friends come in,if I was a souless CEO of a huge corporation,I'd be praising mass immigration and probably fund the labour party.

 

Even if they weren't willing to work cheaper (which they are) than us,they stll flood the market with labour lessening it's value.

[Lloyd90 509]

These immigrants are competitive as feck, they come from places where they don't get given hand outs, you work or go without and its bred a load of workers.

 

All of Scandinavia and a lot of Eastern Europe speak several languages, place a high emphasis on education and will graft hard.

 

When you've got some scrout's who never bothered in school, don't even have a GCSE in English their own language and ain't willing to work extra hours to finish jobs or is a lazy b*****d, you can't complain some immigrant is "stealing their job".

 

Not everyone likes this obv but the amount of tossers I seen who get a job and seem to think they're doing the employer a favour by being there is a joke!

[WILF 50,237]

I very rarely get angry to the point of boiling over but a couple of years back I leathered 3 twenty something's on a job they got me that mad.

In my job, once you start you have to keep going to the end (there's none of this knock off at 5 and come back tomorrow business).....but it's not everyday so it dont matter if you do end up doing 15 or 20 hours.

 

We had started about 6am and at 2 with not too much left to do this gobshite comes up and says "your taking the piss ain't ya mate....it's Saturday and we started at 6!!"

Now this c**t hadn't done any other work all week except for the day I was using him and the same for his mates !!

 

We were 50 miles from home, so I just said "f**k off out my sight"

How am I getting home says matey.......f***ing walk says I !!

 

He starts on chopsing "I'm not going anywhere blah blah"

 

"Is that right I say" and ping, he is out the door......his two silly mates come over to get involved......ping, ping and they follow him out!

Those fuckers made me mad, think all they have to do is turn up and someone pays for the pleasure of their company.

As I say, some folk don't deserve to work.

[Lloyd90 509]

 

 

 

I don't see why so many have a problem with them we have about 200 in are town they all work in the fishy or on farms local they don't come in trying too change anything sure when they first got here there was a few good scraps between locals and poles thinking they were hard man type they soon got dealt with but the rest are nice and friendly always smile and wave the fact folk think that they steal jobs is a load of pish every one hits a bad run of luck every now and then but if your not willing too put the time in looking for one you won't get one you just got too be willing too work some are just lazy b*****ds and in a small town like this every one knows every one and too my knowledge there is only one pole on the dole here out of the 200 and that's cos he married a local and even the poles don't like him and I've got more native friends that are on the dole every other week then the poles hell even a couple of local lads are going out with some of them I've always found them a good lot too be honest I've had more hassle from rich English folk that move up here then poles hell I had one English woman try too tell me not too put my net out in the bay the other week cos she dint like me spoiling her view she got told not so politely too f**k off there was even I story I heard a while ago where an English couple were asking how they could get the pipe band too stop playing the music so loud

they do steal jobs from British workers,as well as bring down the price of labour i.e your wages.

 

it's nothing personal,but them being here is detrimental to the vast majority of us.

Not the VAST MAJORITY at all. Unfortunately they are a detriment to low skilled workers or labourers , or semi skilled manual workers like those in the building trade.

 

I assume you are in this field ?

 

Obviously they will take jobs off British workers , problem is alot complain they can't get British workers who'll do a proper days graft, or who won't rip them off or do a shite job.

 

Many people who employ or get work done by poles think they are a great benefit not a detriment. Depends what side you are on.

 

There are also many skilled and highly trained immigrants in employment here. The large amount of doctors, opticians and nurses are Asian or similar. They seem to have a cultural idea to raise their kids with the idea that they need to work hard, education is pushed as highly important, they come from countries with very poor benefits systems so you pretty much either sink or swim.

 

We do have people who genuinely need help but there's so many lazy, worthless tossers having a free ride, or simply topping up their pay that it causes resentment between those in work and those out of work.

 

 

You can easily find British workers who'll work hard and do a good job,just not for £7 an hour.

 

That's where our Eastern European friends come in,if I was a souless CEO of a huge corporation,I'd be praising mass immigration and probably fund the labour party.

 

Even if they weren't willing to work cheaper (which they are) than us,they stll flood the market with labour lessening it's value.

 

 

AI mate that's how competition works, and big business owners get rich. Happened for generations. Chinese labour built the great US Railroads, Black slave labour worked the plantations, Vietnamese Labour brought in when they want too much money, now a lot of their farms worked by Mexican labour bussed in from across the border.

 

Problem is, if you choose to go into a profession where someone else can do the job for cheaper, or will work harder, they'll often get the work first.

Nothing soulless about it from a CEO's perspective. If you had a company you'd employ the hardest workers who will work for the cheapest rate. If the jobs these immigrants did were shite they wouldn't be asked back so they must be doing tidy work for cheaper money.

[Truther 1,579]

 

 

 

I don't see why so many have a problem with them we have about 200 in are town they all work in the fishy or on farms local they don't come in trying too change anything sure when they first got here there was a few good scraps between locals and poles thinking they were hard man type they soon got dealt with but the rest are nice and friendly always smile and wave the fact folk think that they steal jobs is a load of pish every one hits a bad run of luck every now and then but if your not willing too put the time in looking for one you won't get one you just got too be willing too work some are just lazy b*****ds and in a small town like this every one knows every one and too my knowledge there is only one pole on the dole here out of the 200 and that's cos he married a local and even the poles don't like him and I've got more native friends that are on the dole every other week then the poles hell even a couple of local lads are going out with some of them I've always found them a good lot too be honest I've had more hassle from rich English folk that move up here then poles hell I had one English woman try too tell me not too put my net out in the bay the other week cos she dint like me spoiling her view she got told not so politely too f**k off there was even I story I heard a while ago where an English couple were asking how they could get the pipe band too stop playing the music so loud

they do steal jobs from British workers,as well as bring down the price of labour i.e your wages.

 

it's nothing personal,but them being here is detrimental to the vast majority of us.

Not the VAST MAJORITY at all. Unfortunately they are a detriment to low skilled workers or labourers , or semi skilled manual workers like those in the building trade.

 

I assume you are in this field ?

 

Obviously they will take jobs off British workers , problem is alot complain they can't get British workers who'll do a proper days graft, or who won't rip them off or do a shite job.

 

Many people who employ or get work done by poles think they are a great benefit not a detriment. Depends what side you are on.

 

There are also many skilled and highly trained immigrants in employment here. The large amount of doctors, opticians and nurses are Asian or similar. They seem to have a cultural idea to raise their kids with the idea that they need to work hard, education is pushed as highly important, they come from countries with very poor benefits systems so you pretty much either sink or swim.

 

We do have people who genuinely need help but there's so many lazy, worthless tossers having a free ride, or simply topping up their pay that it causes resentment between those in work and those out of work.

 

 

You can easily find British workers who'll work hard and do a good job,just not for £7 an hour.

 

That's where our Eastern European friends come in,if I was a souless CEO of a huge corporation,I'd be praising mass immigration and probably fund the labour party.

 

Even if they weren't willing to work cheaper (which they are) than us,they stll flood the market with labour lessening it's value.

 

 

There's plenty of natives working hard for less than £7 an hour round here mate tbh,

[mushroom 14,097]

I very rarely get angry to the point of boiling over but a couple of years back I leathered 3 twenty something's on a job they got me that mad.

In my job, once you start you have to keep going to the end (there's none of this knock off at 5 and come back tomorrow business).....but it's not everyday so it dont matter if you do end up doing 15 or 20 hours.

 

We had started about 6am and at 2 with not too much left to do this gobshite comes up and says "your taking the piss ain't ya mate....it's Saturday and we started at 6!!"

Now this c**t hadn't done any other work all week except for the day I was using him and the same for his mates !!

 

We were 50 miles from home, so I just said "f**k off out my sight"

How am I getting home says matey.......f***ing walk says I !!

 

He starts on chopsing "I'm not going anywhere blah blah"

 

"Is that right I say" and ping, he is out the door......his two silly mates come over to get involved......ping, ping and they follow him out!

Those fuckers made me mad, think all they have to do is turn up and someone pays for the pleasure of their company.

As I say, some folk don't deserve to work.

I work with C level, senior VP's, VP's, directors etc of global companies. Tell you not one of these boys and girls down tools at 5pm if the job still needs doing. If I did that I'd be out of a job and straight to the que. Jesus I end up writing reports at God only knows what time to get them across to the guys in USA or NZ for example. Failure/laziness/lack of detail/no focus is not an option. Especially when millions are on the table

[day worker 296]

The past 20 years I have worked with thousands of eastern Europeans all bussed in on the agencies and have nothing but praise for them. They all seem to be educated to a higher standard than the brits and work bloody hard.on the other hand we went through a period where we were flooded with iraqi kurds.they couldnt have been any different if they tried.the smelly lying two faced lazy cnuts!

[tatsblisters 10,960]

Honestly if you believe in capitalism and the free market I don't see how you can complain about immigrants "stealing" jobs.

 

If you're not going to make as much profit for your employer as a Polish worker willing to worker harder for less then why would they employ you?

Thats what i carnt get my head around the hard left supporting mass immigration as the only ones who benefit from it is the very people they loath and despise the capitalists.

[mackem 29,577]

speak several languages, place a high emphasis on education!

Thats the key,educate,educate,educate,improve training/education for kids of this country,the world is changing,the youth of this country dont understand that,if they dont wake up one day they will find themselves in for a big shock,its still easy street at the moment,but changing rapidly.

[Lloyd90 509]

 

speak several languages, place a high emphasis on education!

Thats the key,educate,educate,educate,improve training/education for kids of this country,the world is changing,the youth of this country dont understand that,if they dont wake up one day they will find themselves in for a big shock,its still easy street at the moment,but changing rapidly.

 

 

In the countries they come from if they don't get a half tidy education and a job they don't get no hand outs. They're very dog eat dog places. Here if you don't get a education and a job you get a council house and money to live off, plus more for every kid you pop out! We got immigrants speaking 4 or 5 languages and being raised in competitive places, told they gotta work and educate themselves, whilst here we got kids who tell their teachers to feck off or stab em, can't even get a GCSE in basic maths or ENGLISH (Their own language!!!) and expect to walk out of school and have a nice job, new car and tidy house.

[tatsblisters 10,960]

Thing is with this mass immigration from eastern europe thousands of roma have also come to this country offering nothing.