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[Quarter bull 240]

Well you need to revise mate, thats straight from karl marx manifesto

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Well you need to revise mate, thats straight from karl marx manifesto

As a stepping stone to a communist society... The ultimate aim is for the state to wither away and industry to be owned and run by workers collectives.

 

I wonder have you ever read any of Marx's works? You seem to have a very basic understanding like you've just read some regurgitated facts on some website...

 

we are forced to accept it,unless you're fairly articulate even speaking out against it in public will land you in prison.

 

This is only happening to European societies,not Chinese,not African,not middle eastern.

 

We are being targeted and need to wake up,there's no where left to run.

Better get used to it then Edited April 25, 2015 by BGD

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https://youtu.be/UUwoXE7DRq8

[Quarter bull 240]

Well, thats the truth, just letting you know, could you tell me ten proposals of karl marx manifesto, saying i got it wrong.

[Joe1888 672]

f***ing bawbag :D , hes in glasgow this weekend, becoming popular up here

Edited April 25, 2015 by Joe1888

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multiculturism eh? we certainly got a lot of cultures in england how about israel? how many different cultures there. How about japan or saudi arabia? why only europe or western cultured societies that have to accept it did we get asked? people say its the governments fault yet when people support a party against multiculturism the cesspit gets thrown at them there racist etc etc

Well Israel has Ashkenazi, Orthodox, Ethiopian and other Jewish cultures/sects alongside the Druze, Bedouin and many other Arab cultures both Christian and Muslim... So what was your point again?

lol how many economic migrants how many refugees are there? what about the black jews from ethiopia how are they treated in israel?

They're treated as second class citizens even being forcibly sterilized when they come into the country. As for refugees well currently there's over 47,000 African asylum seekers in Israel mostly from Eritrea and Sudan...

But your post wasn't about how they're treated you were claiming that they didn't have multiculturalism in those countries and it was only western European countries being "forced to accept it"

Given birth control injections, not steralised.

A practice I would welcome here for all asylum seekers.

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multiculturism eh? we certainly got a lot of cultures in england how about israel? how many different cultures there. How about japan or saudi arabia? why only europe or western cultured societies that have to accept it did we get asked? people say its the governments fault yet when people support a party against multiculturism the cesspit gets thrown at them there racist etc etc

Well Israel has Ashkenazi, Orthodox, Ethiopian and other Jewish cultures/sects alongside the Druze, Bedouin and many other Arab cultures both Christian and Muslim... So what was your point again?

lol how many economic migrants how many refugees are there? what about the black jews from ethiopia how are they treated in israel?

They're treated as second class citizens even being forcibly sterilized when they come into the country. As for refugees well currently there's over 47,000 African asylum seekers in Israel mostly from Eritrea and Sudan...

But your post wasn't about how they're treated you were claiming that they didn't have multiculturalism in those countries and it was only western European countries being "forced to accept it"

Given birth control injections, not steralised.

A practice I would welcome here for all asylum seekers.

You would welcome forced birth control programmes with the aim of racial/ethnic cleansing? Wow. Congratulations on being a literal Nazi I guess?

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Are what ukip want in england any different than what the snp want for Scotland?Yes the policies are different but they are what the people that vote for that party want ie snp want power in scotland ukip powers back from brussels/stasbourg so how can any scots nationalist call them down?

[Joe1888 672]

if only the oath was removed, sinn fein in the mix aswell would be interesting

Edited April 25, 2015 by Joe1888

[Joe1888 672]

abit humor from a englishman last year,

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi53DA5Ao3o

Edited April 25, 2015 by Joe1888

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The poll I just gave you is the real one... there's two elections going on at the same time the media fantasy and reality ...http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/22/there-are-two-general-elections-underway-the-virtual-poll-of-the-political-class-and-the-real-contest/

Ah yes unilad.com that well respected polling organisation.

 

Its an online poll on a niche website ffs you really think they got a better cross section of the population than professional polling organisations with carefully managed criteria :laugh:

 

You're living in a fantasy land pal.

I think we're all living in a fantasy world, clever education and conditioning by the ones that run it, but the thing that makes it work better than anything is the general population not wanting any real responsibility? You and Rags are on the same side to me, people who believe politics is real, all working for the same side, and to deluded to know it, or back to not wanting responsibility and just in denial? Not meant to be offensive, just my opinion.

I'm under no illusions I know all the main parties are basically the same but I vote Labour in an attempt to protect the welfare state and public services. Voting for the lesser evil while working towards a real socialist revolution, its about all someone of my political persuasion can do seeing as there's no credible socialist/marxist party standing throughout the UK.

 

 

This is what i meant by "deluded" not just British politics, deluded into thinking communism or socialism is a real thing, get your head round, non of it is real, just the same people running both sides from a different angle, playing one side against the other. Its a big game designed to keep the people in their place, capitalist/communist are just meaningless labels it goes by.......both systems end up with mass poverty and a small percentage of elite, that's what they're for.

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Good point truther, hes a marxist, that gives you a idea what he aims for, nwo springs to mind...

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The poll I just gave you is the real one... there's two elections going on at the same time the media fantasy and reality ...http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/22/there-are-two-general-elections-underway-the-virtual-poll-of-the-political-class-and-the-real-contest/

Ah yes unilad.com that well respected polling organisation.

 

Its an online poll on a niche website ffs you really think they got a better cross section of the population than professional polling organisations with carefully managed criteria :laugh:

 

You're living in a fantasy land pal.

I think we're all living in a fantasy world, clever education and conditioning by the ones that run it, but the thing that makes it work better than anything is the general population not wanting any real responsibility? You and Rags are on the same side to me, people who believe politics is real, all working for the same side, and to deluded to know it, or back to not wanting responsibility and just in denial? Not meant to be offensive, just my opinion.

I'm under no illusions I know all the main parties are basically the same but I vote Labour in an attempt to protect the welfare state and public services. Voting for the lesser evil while working towards a real socialist revolution, its about all someone of my political persuasion can do seeing as there's no credible socialist/marxist party standing throughout the UK.

 

 

This is what i meant by "deluded" not just British politics, deluded into thinking communism or socialism is a real thing, get your head round, non of it is real, just the same people running both sides from a different angle, playing one side against the other. Its a big game designed to keep the people in their place, capitalist/communist are just meaningless labels it goes by.......both systems end up with mass poverty and a small percentage of elite, that's what they're for.

 

 

A small percentage of elites holding power is completely antithesis to Communism, hell the very idea of "elites" doesn't work within a Communist system. But let's put that to one side for a moment, what economic system would you want to see in place if you hold Capitalism and Communism in equal disdain?

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I never said i had the answer, i don't, but i know anything we've got atm is no good, years and years of politics and wars, and nothings been sorted, sort of speaks for itself don't you think? And now there's "no elites" in communism lmao, you got it bad BGD. Just how rose tinted are those glasses you wear mate? I suppose the 85 million people genocide carried out by the communists never happened, how's that fit in with your socialist utopia? And you've got the cheek to pull a Nazi for a measly 1 million.

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I never said i had the answer, i don't, but i know anything we've got atm is no good, years and years of politics and wars, and nothings been sorted, sort of speaks for itself don't you think? And now there's "no elites" in communism lmao, you got it bad BGD. Just how rose tinted are those glasses you wear mate? I suppose the 85 million people genocide carried out by the communists never happened, how's that fit in with your socialist utopia? And you've got the cheek to pull a Nazi for a measly 1 million.

 

Of course there isn't any elites within a true Communist system (whether a truly pure Communist system is possible is another debate). We're talking theory not practice here...

 

As for those killed in the purges of the USSR, well to make an omelette you have to break a few eggs . Purges will be a part of any revolution, you can't expect the ruling classes to hand over the means of production to the dictatorship of the proletariat without bloodshed...

Edited April 25, 2015 by BGD