VWman 232 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Ok so do you all have the means to check your air rifles out put in ft lbs ? I have been advised to get some kit to monitor what power a rifle is putting out. Then there is the type of pellets thing, which are the ones that would cause this ? Ok so we have a new gun that was tested at the shop and was 11.4 and now it's 12.1 ft lbs, what do you do ? Quote Link to post
toby63 1,236 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 take it back to the shop . the heaviear the pellet the more ft/lb so test different pellets Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted March 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Do new guns go over and what about getting a second hand gun and finding out it has gone over ? 1 Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 All guns can go over. Owners responsibility to make sure it isn't. Local shops should be able to bring it down. Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 These allow you to check the power... Combro CB625 Pocket Chronograph Those were the ones that Lancashire police used to check my rifle a few years ago. 1 Quote Link to post
CraignTod 278 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 My weirauch went over to 12.15, but i was using big heavy pellets and ive heard they make it slightly higher Quote Link to post
moxy 617 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Do new guns go over and what about getting a second hand gun and finding out it has gone over ? Some new guns do. It happens occasionally. If you get a second hand gun and it's over then it's your responsibility. In both instances it down to you to check. Get yourself a chrono. If it's a new gun as Toby said. Take it back. A second hand gun, get it fettled Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted March 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Get it fettled you say and how would you do that as I am thinking the gun shop would just take it off you and land you in a load of bother. This subject is not mentioned in any buy your first gun articles ? I have talked to guys I am coming in contact with and they have had air rifles for years and they seem to have no clue about checking and fettling ?. Quote Link to post
moxy 617 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Your asking a big question which ultimately has a lot of answers!! Simplicity on fettling depends on the gun. If you don't have a clue then leave it to your gunshop. They are not going to remove it from you. As for folk not checking and again having no idea. They would not be my concern. It's up to you to ensure its all above board. Ignorance is no excuse. Quote Link to post
moxy 617 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 To add. This subject is not mentioned on the buy your first gun articles for a reason. That being this forum is not here to show individuals how to fettle their guns in order to wind them up. If you are in doubt. Then ask. There are many lads on here clued up who may offer help and advice. Failing that. It's a trip to the gun shop. Quote Link to post
ponte 222 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 You will find that heavy pellets in standard springer will lower the power. The opposite in a precharged airgun ( heavy pellet = more ftp Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Not a bad idea that, not draconian and might save a few from falling foul of the law, similar advice relating to shotgun use used to be on the old game licence. Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just to confirm that I could not give two hoots about 90 percent of users with no clue and will not be shooting with anybody who is flip about air gun use, I just want to do the right thing for me and my shooting buddys . I want to keep things nice and legal. I will get a gadget for checking but was told that if I had a second hand gun that went over that it would be taken off me if I took it to a gun shop. Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just to confirm that I could not give two hoots about 90 percent of users with no clue and will not be shooting with anybody who is flip about air gun use, I just want to do the right thing for me and my shooting buddys . I want to keep things nice and legal. I will get a gadget for checking but was told that if I had a second hand gun that went over that it would be taken off me if I took it to a gun shop. This is a lie it won't be taken off you but you may loose it for a few days. Take it back to the shop and tell them what you've told us. With your original post, it's like you have no idea about it. It's a clear answer, it's over powered, without a ticket you are in trouble, and there is a high likely hood of being bent over by the old bill. Take it back. 1 Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,589 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Alright gentlemen let's get this query in a legal perspective of how the law currently works on air rifle power issues.. I hope this is not going to sound boring but, I've known some decent chaps fall foul of the law on their air rifles' performance in my time. And it's not funny.. VWman have you actually bought a rifle yet? In the first place, the short smart answer is never touch an over-limit second hand air rifle no matter how good a bargain, it saves you many a sleepless night and there are plenty of bargains in your desired choice without getting yourself embroiled in this hassle. Get an accurate Chronograph reading and that will tell you where your rifle is. However, should you unwittingly find yourself the owner of a hot air gun.. If you have bought your gun, If you have bought an air rifle that is performing above the legal limit AND it isn't registered as a licenced firearm, there is nothing wrong with talking it over with a gunsmith before you show it to him, tell him you think it's over the 12 ft/lb limit and you need it taking down in power. If he's a reasonable bloke, he'll sort it out for you and de-tune it, though he may ask you if you knew if it was ever registered on an FAC by the previous owner before you take it in. At least give them the chance to accept it as an air rifle that needs taking down in power. before there is any question of a Licenced firearm being sold to an unlicenced buyer. That's where the real issue with confiscations lies. Once registered on a firearms certificate, any air rifle is classed as a firearm and cannot be de-classified or unregistered. It can only be sold on to another licenced customer and re-registered under his ownership. Even one that has been de-tuned to sub-12 ft/lbs makes no difference. In such cases the gun, by law, has to confiscated and surrendered to the Police. Best regards. Simon Edited March 12, 2015 by pianoman 4 Quote Link to post
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