N/east poacher 85 Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Any one know what channel this will be on ? Wil it be box nation ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plummerterrier 291 Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Sky and boxnation fighting over it still man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Guts have nothing to do with all time rankings, funny how you mock Michael Spinks yet he beat Larry Holmes twice.... Lewis has one of the best resumes in heavyweight history. As for Vitali, he has a great record and IMO ranks very high in a head to head rating. So wait.......Dempsey gets no credit for beating a shot Willard.......Spinks victories ( if you can call the second fight a victory ) over a shot Holmes was a great accomplishment ?.......Tysons victory over an even more shot Holmes was also an accomplishment ?.......................................................yet Lewis victory over a shot Tyson doesnt count ..........If guts dont come into your judgement of fighters then i guess it makes sense why you are so high on Tyson. As for Klitchko,s great record.......we,re back here again.....what great fighters did he beat ?........all time great fighters beat or lose honourably to other great fighters or compete in historic fights or transcend the sport.......Klitchko and Tyson never did any of that ! And for the record...i rate Spinks an all time great light heavyweight......but he certainly wasnt a heavyweight. Come on then what all time great fighters did Joe Louis beat? Rocky Marciano?? Sonny Liston? Larry Holmes? We can all play those games... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,286 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Come on then what all time great fighters did Joe Louis beat? Rocky Marciano?? Sonny Liston? Larry Holmes? We can all play those games... Games ??......Why have you listed Louis and Marciano as your 2nd and 3rd greatest heavyweights in history if you dont think they beat great fighters ?......nail your colours mate if you think Vitali Klitchko should go down in history as a greater heavyweight than Louis/Marciano/Holmes then explain why dont list them higher then question their achievements....I was just curious to know what your thoughts were behind listing Vitali Klitchko as one of the greatest fighters in history it wasnt a trick question ! Must admit i have to concede an earlier point you made Tyson did take a better shot than i gave him credit for i watched the 2 Ruddock fights back over the last few days he took some decent shots and wasnt moved so you was probably right on that score.......then i thought f**k it im here now i might as well refresh my memory on his post Douglas career and watched fights against people like Mcneeley/Seldon/Norris etc.......my goodness how was he ever allowed to fight such appalling fighters it was embarrassing to watch !!.........as for saying " Im cut from Sonny Liston and Jack Dempseys cloth " ........talk about a cartoon character !! Edited March 9, 2015 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Because I know they're greats regardless of who they fought just like Tyson. Since when did I rank Vitali higher than Louis or Marciano? Haha. And your missing the point of him having nearly half a decade away from the sport whilst in prison, that is a massive setback for any athlete tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL7EQk6C3jA 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,286 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Because I know they're greats regardless of who they fought just like Tyson. So tell me....what is it that made them greats ?.......Likewise what is it that makes Tyson a great that can in any way compare to Joe Louis ? As for Tyson having time off......so did Ali but we dont feel a need to give him excuses for his poor performances post lay off and they was the same age when they came back. Id still love to know your reasoning for ranking Klitchko an all time great......but dont worry if you dont want to answer thats ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Because I know they're greats regardless of who they fought just like Tyson. So tell me....what is it that made them greats ?.......Likewise what is it that makes Tyson a great that can in any way compare to Joe Louis ? As for Tyson having time off......so did Ali but we dont feel a need to give him excuses for his poor performances post lay off and they was the same age when they came back. Id still love to know your reasoning for ranking Klitchko an all time great......but dont worry if you dont want to answer thats ok Well seeing as though you rank Joe Louis you tell me why you rank him so high?? Are you kidding me?? Ali's ass kicking by Frazier is always argued because of the lay off.. I think Vitali is a monster head to head, both fights he ever did lose he was ahead before losing due to injuries, the second highest knockout percentage of all the heavyweight champions,the 8th longest ever title holder, never knocked down or seriously hurt in his career, holding a title past the age of 40, missing out on over 4 years of his career just like Ali and Tyson..... Need I say more?? Edited March 12, 2015 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,286 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Well seeing as though you rank Joe Louis you tell me why you rank him so high?? Are you kidding me?? Ali's ass kicking by Frazier is always argued because of the lay off.. I think Vitali is a monster head to head, both fights he ever did lose he was ahead before losing due to injuries, the second highest knockout percentage of all the heavyweight champions,the 8th longest ever title holder, never knocked down or seriously hurt in his career, holding a title past the age of 40, missing out on over 4 years of his career just like Ali and Tyson..... Need I say more?? You are answering a question with a question. Ali had an excuse for 1 fight.......not the entire next 10 years of his career like Tyson did ! When you asked me who Joe Louis had fought i didnt answer.....but i could of come up with legendary boxing names like Rocky Marciano,Ezzard Charles,Jersey Joe Walcott,Max Schmaeling,Billy Conn,Tommy Farr,Jack Sharkey,Max Baer,Primo Carnera............what legendary names can you come up with who Vitali Klitchko fought......Herbie Hide ? Ross Purrity ? Albert Sosnowski ? Need i say more 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Well seeing as though you rank Joe Louis you tell me why you rank him so high?? Are you kidding me?? Ali's ass kicking by Frazier is always argued because of the lay off.. I think Vitali is a monster head to head, both fights he ever did lose he was ahead before losing due to injuries, the second highest knockout percentage of all the heavyweight champions,the 8th longest ever title holder, never knocked down or seriously hurt in his career, holding a title past the age of 40, missing out on over 4 years of his career just like Ali and Tyson..... Need I say more?? You are answering a question with a question. Ali had an excuse for 1 fight.......not the entire next 10 years of his career like Tyson did ! When you asked me who Joe Louis had fought i didnt answer.....but i could of come up with legendary boxing names like Rocky Marciano,Ezzard Charles,Jersey Joe Walcott,Max Schmaeling,Billy Conn,Tommy Farr,Jack Sharkey,Max Baer,Primo Carnera............what legendary names can you come up with who Vitali Klitchko fought......Herbie Hide ? Ross Purrity ? Albert Sosnowski ? Need i say more There's only a couple of those that are legendary and he lost to most of them.... If you can have the cheek to call the likes of Tommy Farr, Primo Carnera etc legendary and laugh at Vital then we will leave it at that... Edited March 12, 2015 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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