DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't say Tyson was made for fighters with good jabs at all, Pinklon Thomas and Carl Williams both had world class jabs, in fact one could argue that Williams beat Holmes when they fought. Tyson dispatched those two with relative ease. Holmes could have all the heart in the world but once Tyson put him down he'd finish the job, he was no Earnie Shavers at finishing a fight. Of all the dead bodies Tyson knocked over in them early days they were 2 of the worst fights of all.......Thomas didnt throw a punch in 6 petrified rounds and Williams well that wasnt even a fight......what makes you think Tyson could of got past Holmes jab to put him down ? he couldnt get past very average jabs like Tucker/Green/Smith when he was in this " prime " what reason is there to think he could get past the greatest jab in the history of the division ?.......and if he couldnt what would his plan b of been ? he didnt have one.They weren't fights because Tyson took them apart that's why... You say he struggled against Green, Smith and Tucker yet he won every single round plus none of those fought at all like Holmes. Holmes had balls and that would be his downfall, he wouldn't fight to survive by clinching all night long. So tell me then how did the average Shavers and Snipes get by that jab and put him on his ass? They couldn't carry Tyson's jockstrap. Edited February 28, 2015 by DogFox123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I really do believe Manny will beat Floyd, Mayweather hasn't fought anyone with the punch output of Manny. 5 years ago Manny would have knocked him out, now I think he will win on points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy123 59 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 The problem is no one can hit mayweather he made marquez look ordinary. and marquez gave manny a couple of good runs then sparked him out in another fight. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 The problem is no one can hit mayweather he made marquez look ordinary. and marquez gave manny a couple of good runs then sparked him out in another fight. Yeah but Marquez was made to move up two weights and Mayweather didn't even make weight, Marquez was soft and sluggish. IMO he definitely went on PED's not long after that defeat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy123 59 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I didnt realise there was a problem with weights dogfox on the mayweather marques fight. But when mayweather and manny were both at there best a few years ago i would watch mayweather and think he would win a fight between the two then watch pacman fight and change my mind again. But at this moment in time i think mayweather will have the edge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I didnt realise there was a problem with weights dogfox on the mayweather marques fight. But when mayweather and manny were both at there best a few years ago i would watch mayweather and think he would win a fight between the two then watch pacman fight and change my mind again. But at this moment in time i think mayweather will have the edge. Well Mayweather didn't fancy the fight at all when the fights hype was at its biggest... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy123 59 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I think at the time the pacman was refusing to have blood tests claiming he was scared of needles and that was an issue with mayweather. Dont know if there was any truth in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I think at the time the pacman was refusing to have blood tests claiming he was scared of needles and that was an issue with mayweather. Dont know if there was any truth in it. Why the hell should he bend over and do things out of the ordinary just to settle Mayweathers paranoia?? Funny how the man Mayweather was basically saying was giving Manny PED's is now working for Mayweather.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zerky 133 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 My predictions, Mayweather vs Pacman (Mayweather on points. Mayweather vs Khan (Khan on points) Khan vs Pacman (khan by ko) Khan vs Brook (Brook by ko) Brook vs Pacman (Brook by ko) JMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy123 59 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Its just what i heard at the time dogfox didn't know if it was true or if mayweather was using it as an excuse to get out of the fight. But it seemed funny after the accusations that the pacman went off the boil. Probably just a coincidence tho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Its just what i heard at the time dogfox didn't know if it was true or if mayweather was using it as an excuse to get out of the fight. But it seemed funny after the accusations that the pacman went off the boil. Probably just a coincidence tho. Typical tactic of a cheat though, accuse everyone else so nobody looks at you. I'd put my money on them both having taken PED's tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob284 1,682 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Pacman was on peds. The weight he put on in that time scale is superhuman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Pacman was on peds. The weight he put on in that time scale is superhuman. And what makes you think Mayweather hasn't took PED's?? He's also a 5 weight Champion... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 http://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/2mrf3b/has_there_ever_been_any_serious_suggestion_ Nobody brings more money to Vegas than Mayweather,make your own minds up . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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