Born Hunter 17,966 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 ...the point is, there's nothing in it for anybody to tackle a man with a machete if he is robbing a bank or a jewellers, they are insured so let them deal with it...... How about having a bit of pride in the country/area you live in and not wanting to see it become acceptable for armed robbers to turn over wherever they like because "the insurance will pay out"? Call it a superhero complex or whatever, that's FAR more admirable than some chancer saying "well I'm thick and unprivileged so I'm going to terrify people to steal a living". That man had the moral substance to act for the good of his community. The armed robber had ambition, nothing more, I see that everyday. If British citizens had the right to concealed carry, I'd plug the little angel who's out to earn a respectable living in machete wielding robbery before I'd 'play my part' and let my community/country continue to live with such shite. Nobody is an angel, I'm not pretending everybody lives by the letter of the law, but armed robbery crosses a line for me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,353 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Mate, I don't know about today but years ago the criminal injuries compensation for a death was about 8 grand !!........would you rather your family planted you in the ground for 8 grand or the insurance broker had to pay out ? It really is as simple as that. Edited January 27, 2015 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,966 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Mate, I don't know about today but years ago the criminal injuries compensation for a death was about 8 grand !!........would you rather your family planted you in the ground for 8 grand of the insurance broker had to pay out ? It really is as simple as that. Would I rather a family member didn't join the forces and die in a feat of extreme valour or would I still be unspeakably proud of them for doing so? Same principle.... Some people instinctively take the moral action in spite of danger. Some people wont stand by and accept shit as 'just the way things are'. And if those people die, they're heroes. You can keep your 8 grand, it doesn't change a thing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,353 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Mate, I don't know about today but years ago the criminal injuries compensation for a death was about 8 grand !!........would you rather your family planted you in the ground for 8 grand of the insurance broker had to pay out ? It really is as simple as that. Would I rather a family member didn't join the forces and die in a feat of extreme valour or would I still be unspeakably proud of them for doing so? Same principle.... Some people instinctively take the moral action in spite of danger. Some people wont stand by and accept shit as 'just the way things are'. And if those people die, they're heroes. You can keep your 8 grand, it doesn't change a thing. Admirable qualities I am sure mate, I understand why you feel like that BUT the fact is a week after the event no one in the community will remember their name !!The plebs would have moved on to "who had sex with who in the big brother house" blah blah.........and you wife and kids are alone and will get f**k all help from anybody. It will be just like you never existed and the insurance broker will still be having lunch in the pub I see it like this, if a stranger see you in trouble in the street then they will probably help you and you them but if you miss some payments on your house to the bank because you are in financial shtook then they will come round and take your f***ing house away and f**k you.......so f**k them I say . Edited January 27, 2015 by WILF 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,966 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Mate, I don't know about today but years ago the criminal injuries compensation for a death was about 8 grand !!........would you rather your family planted you in the ground for 8 grand of the insurance broker had to pay out ? It really is as simple as that. Would I rather a family member didn't join the forces and die in a feat of extreme valour or would I still be unspeakably proud of them for doing so? Same principle.... Some people instinctively take the moral action in spite of danger. Some people wont stand by and accept shit as 'just the way things are'. And if those people die, they're heroes. You can keep your 8 grand, it doesn't change a thing. Admirable qualities I am sure mate, I understand why you feel like that BUT the fact is a week after the event no one in the community will remember their name !! The plebs would have moved on to "who had sex with who in the big brother house" blah blah.........and you wife and kids are alone and will get f**k all help from anybody. It will just like you never existed and the insurance broker will still be having lunch in the pub The sort of people that do this aren't out for fame, it's part of their moral fibre. They're evidently people of strong conviction. They want a better world and are willing to do their bit for it. No master strategy for world peace or even members of the neighbourhood watch, just simple people of the mind set "that ain't right, I'm going to stop it". And hey, maybe while the whole world is ignoring the 20 seconds of news your heroism has made, a couple of people will be inspired by the little act of courage you showed for your community and bolster their own faith in what is around them. Your name leaves no impression on them but your action did.... I can live happily in that world. People of that type, I admire in todays world. I have zero respect for an armed robber, there are no qualities in that man I would find rare or desirable. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,966 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 LOL That sounds like the closing monologue to a Batman remake! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Mate, I don't know about today but years ago the criminal injuries compensation for a death was about 8 grand !!........would you rather your family planted you in the ground for 8 grand of the insurance broker had to pay out ? It really is as simple as that. Would I rather a family member didn't join the forces and die in a feat of extreme valour or would I still be unspeakably proud of them for doing so? Same principle.... Some people instinctively take the moral action in spite of danger. Some people wont stand by and accept shit as 'just the way things are'. And if those people die, they're heroes. You can keep your 8 grand, it doesn't change a thing. Admirable qualities I am sure mate, I understand why you feel like that BUT the fact is a week after the event no one in the community will remember their name !!The plebs would have moved on to "who had sex with who in the big brother house" blah blah.........and you wife and kids are alone and will get f**k all help from anybody. It will just like you never existed and the insurance broker will still be having lunch in the pub The sort of people that do this aren't out for fame, it's part of their moral fibre. They're evidently people of strong conviction. They want a better world and are willing to do their bit for it. No master strategy for world peace or even members of the neighbourhood watch, just simple people of the mind set "that ain't right, I'm going to stop it". And hey, maybe while the whole world is ignoring the 20 seconds of news your heroism has made, a couple of people will be inspired by the little act of courage you showed for your community and bolster their own faith in what is around them. Your name leaves no impression on them but your action did.... I can live happily in that world. People of that type, I admire in todays world. I have zero respect for an armed robber, there are no qualities in that man I would find rare or desirable. Your just against armed robbers or people who brake the law? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 The old saying,easy come easy go is about right when you talk about robbing and thieving. The money isnt earned honestly nor it it worked for,so it holds no value at all. To me theres a big difference,to some obviously not!. Nope none at all......to me theres 100 pence in a pound coin whether its straight or crooked i still wont get more than a loaf of bread for it !..........you are obviously one of these " its not whether you win or lose but how you play the game " lot......admireable as it is see where it gets you in the real world be that sport,finance,anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,966 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 The sort of people that do this aren't out for fame, it's part of their moral fibre. They're evidently people of strong conviction. They want a better world and are willing to do their bit for it. No master strategy for world peace or even members of the neighbourhood watch, just simple people of the mind set "that ain't right, I'm going to stop it". And hey, maybe while the whole world is ignoring the 20 seconds of news your heroism has made, a couple of people will be inspired by the little act of courage you showed for your community and bolster their own faith in what is around them. Your name leaves no impression on them but your action did.... I can live happily in that world. People of that type, I admire in todays world. I have zero respect for an armed robber, there are no qualities in that man I would find rare or desirable. Your just against armed robbers or people who brake the law? People that choose violent crime against everyday folk as a career choice... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 The sort of people that do this aren't out for fame, it's part of their moral fibre. They're evidently people of strong conviction. They want a better world and are willing to do their bit for it. No master strategy for world peace or even members of the neighbourhood watch, just simple people of the mind set "that ain't right, I'm going to stop it". And hey, maybe while the whole world is ignoring the 20 seconds of news your heroism has made, a couple of people will be inspired by the little act of courage you showed for your community and bolster their own faith in what is around them. Your name leaves no impression on them but your action did.... I can live happily in that world. People of that type, I admire in todays world. I have zero respect for an armed robber, there are no qualities in that man I would find rare or desirable. Your just against armed robbers or people who brake the law? People that choose violent crime against everyday folk as a career choice... Ok buddy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,353 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 The sort of people that do this aren't out for fame, it's part of their moral fibre. They're evidently people of strong conviction. They want a better world and are willing to do their bit for it. No master strategy for world peace or even members of the neighbourhood watch, just simple people of the mind set "that ain't right, I'm going to stop it". And hey, maybe while the whole world is ignoring the 20 seconds of news your heroism has made, a couple of people will be inspired by the little act of courage you showed for your community and bolster their own faith in what is around them. Your name leaves no impression on them but your action did.... I can live happily in that world. People of that type, I admire in todays world. I have zero respect for an armed robber, there are no qualities in that man I would find rare or desirable.Your just against armed robbers or people who brake the law? People that choose violent crime against everyday folk as a career choice... My old woman used to work in Superdrug years ago, as you know all the crack heads go in there regular and nick everything, the policy was that if they were caught a couple of members of staff would have to sit in a room with them until plod turned up !! I made it very clear to my wife that she was NOT to do it under any circumstances because it's not worth getting stabbed for half a dozen packets of razor blades and some cans of Lynx !! We are not talking about violent crime against individuals here, we are talking about about robbing big rich institutions or shops who all have insurance and can afford the loss. It may be a bit frightening to the people behind the counter but being a bit scared trumps pushing up Daisy's any day of the week to me !! If you get your canister blown off trying to stop someone walking out of Barclays with the days taking then your not a hero in my book your a complete f***ing cretin. I totally agree about helping private people in the street but not banks and shops when it don't matter......as I said, it's just "stuff" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,966 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 The sort of people that do this aren't out for fame, it's part of their moral fibre. They're evidently people of strong conviction. They want a better world and are willing to do their bit for it. No master strategy for world peace or even members of the neighbourhood watch, just simple people of the mind set "that ain't right, I'm going to stop it". And hey, maybe while the whole world is ignoring the 20 seconds of news your heroism has made, a couple of people will be inspired by the little act of courage you showed for your community and bolster their own faith in what is around them. Your name leaves no impression on them but your action did.... I can live happily in that world. People of that type, I admire in todays world. I have zero respect for an armed robber, there are no qualities in that man I would find rare or desirable.Your just against armed robbers or people who brake the law? People that choose violent crime against everyday folk as a career choice... My old woman used to work in Superdrug years ago, as you know all the crack heads go in there regular and nick everything, the policy was that if they were caught a couple of members of staff would have to sit in a room with them until plod turned up !! I made it very clear to my wife that she was NOT to do it under any circumstances because it's not worth getting stabbed for half a dozen packets of razor blades and some cans of Lynx !! We are not talking about violent crime against individuals here, we are talking about about robbing big rich institutions or shops who all have insurance and can afford the loss. It may be a bit frightening to the people behind the counter but being a bit scared trumps pushing up Daisy's any day of the week to me !! If you get your canister blown off trying to stop someone walking out of Barclays with the days taking then your not a hero in my book your a complete f***ing cretin. I totally agree about helping private people in the street but not banks and shops when it don't matter......as I said, it's just "stuff" I just don't get that at all WILF. We couldn't disagree more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 51,353 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Fair play mate, not everyone thinks the same way ........you seem a nice bloke and I think it would be shame to see the emergency services having to scoop your brains off the pavement for a few grand from an institution where a few grand means lunch to the cheif exec. In the words of Jose Wales, dieing ain't that hard......it's living that's hard ATB pal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,966 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Fair play mate, not everyone thinks the same way ........you seem a nice bloke and I think it would be shame to see the emergency services having to scoop your brains off the pavement for a few grand from an institution where a few grand means lunch to the cheif exec. In the words of Jose Wales, dieing ain't that hard......it's living that's hard ATB pal I just respect people that by their nature wont let society deteriorate in that way. They might be wrong or flawed in their thinking but I respect them for it. I don't know if I'm one of those people.... so I'm no hero. You're a sound sort WILF. Folks can have starkly different opinions and remain civil. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hunter i understand what your saying and not saying your wrong far from it. Here's the however part, if i had to choose between my son being a criminal such as an armed robber or in the army, id rather him be a criminal. If his caught hell do abit of bird and come out with all his limbs. He will probably be better looked after and earnt more than a solider fighting some politicans war where the true motives aint even given to us. Im not anti military quite the opposite i think the country should treat them better. I don't think the armed robber is a good person or anything like that but i wouldn't have a problem having a drink with him. Wouldnt drink with a nonse or someone who's mugged individual people. I suppose it just comes to everyone's personal morals. If noone gets hurt and i say good luck to whoevers done it. Is far worse crimes committed by those who already have wealth and aren't as desperate. The most criminal thing to me about the great train robbery was how long they was sentenced for, peadofile scum dont even get a 1/5 of what they got. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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