walshie 2,804 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 As far as I'm aware, stunning is done with electricity but a captive bolt mashes through the skull and into the brain, much the same as a bullet does? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 As far as I'm aware, stunning is done with electricity but a captive bolt mashes through the skull and into the brain, much the same as a bullet does? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_bolt_pistol "...is a device used for stunning animals prior to slaughter." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) My understanding is that a bullet will cause a huge amount of trauma to the brain and nervous system resulting in instant death. A bolt gun only destroys the part responsible with consciousness, the part responsible for involuntary actions like the heart beating remain functional. For the animal being killed, I think the two are exactly the same. Edited March 11, 2014 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I stand corrected, but you know what I meant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 My understanding is that a bullet will cause a huge amount of trauma to the brain and nervous system resulting in instant death. A bolt gun only destroys the part responsible with consciousness, the part responsible for involuntary actions like the heart beating remain functional. For the animal being killed, I think the two are exactly the same. one has a stick with a spring on the end you insert into the hole to agitate the brain, basically tells the brain its dead Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,467 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 My understanding is that a bullet will cause a huge amount of trauma to the brain and nervous system resulting in instant death. A bolt gun only destroys the part responsible with consciousness, the part responsible for involuntary actions like the heart beating remain functional. For the animal being killed, I think the two are exactly the same. one has a stick with a spring on the end you insert into the hole to agitate the brain, basically tells the brain its dead A captive bolt is a humane stunner. Bleeding or pithing is required to kill the animal. It is possible for an animal to regain consciousness following a captive bolt if bleeding or pithing is not carried out, hence anecdotes of 'dead' animals jumping out of the lorries during the foot and mouth culling... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,836 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Some interesting info here on bolt guns http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_bolt_pistol By the way ,,,,don't Javier bardems character in " no country for old men" use one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,467 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Some interesting info here on bolt guns http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_bolt_pistol By the way ,,,,don't Javier bardems character in " no country for old men" use one Yeah, although in that instance it was a compressed air powered version, rather than the ones in the UK, which in the main are powered by .22 rimfire blanks... There is an interesting article on the internet from Germany about survival rates of people who have attempted to commit suicide using a captive bolt. Some attempts resulted in instant death, but others survived several days or even weeks... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 The bottom line in all this debate is that white British born abattoir owners have to jump through countless hoops to please and appease the rules and regulations forced upon them by this British government BUT the fukcing stinking Britain hating sand niggers can do as they fukcing please because it's done under the guise of their religion and anybody in power in this country is to afraid to upset them .... Tell you what walk into a mosque pull a bloke outside and ask the fukcer whether he wants to be stunned before you slit his throat or does he want to be awake ... I bet you I between him pissing himself and puking with fear he picks being stunned .......... 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 RSPCA just being politically correct and scared to offend anyone. Isn't only 2 or 5% of the uk Muslim? Just curious as to why the halal meat figures are so high then? Must be because they'd have a problem and speak up or not buy if it was halal where the rest couldn't give a shit if its halal and still buy it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 RSPCA just being politically correct and scared to offend anyone. Isn't only 2 or 5% of the uk Muslim? Just curious as to why the halal meat figures are so high then? Must be because they'd have a problem and speak up or not buy if it was halal where the rest couldn't give a shit if its halal and still buy it. thing on the local news earlier. trading standards had found 40% of the meat products tested contained meat products other than those displayed on the label so its any ones guess as to what's in the packet never mind believing how the label says it was killed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,467 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 The bottom line in all this debate is that white British born abattoir owners have to jump through countless hoops to please and appease the rules and regulations forced upon them by this British government BUT the fukcing stinking Britain hating sand niggers can do as they fukcing please because it's done under the guise of their religion and anybody in power in this country is to afraid to upset them .... Tell you what walk into a mosque pull a bloke outside and ask the fukcer whether he wants to be stunned before you slit his throat or does he want to be awake ... I bet you I between him pissing himself and puking with fear he picks being stunned .......... If I didn't know already I could guess you were an Infantry NCO. You certainly have a way with words socks. I agree with everything you say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 The bottom line in all this debate is that white British born abattoir owners have to jump through countless hoops to please and appease the rules and regulations forced upon them by this British government BUT the fukcing stinking Britain hating sand niggers can do as they fukcing please because it's done under the guise of their religion and anybody in power in this country is to afraid to upset them .... Tell you what walk into a mosque pull a bloke outside and ask the fukcer whether he wants to be stunned before you slit his throat or does he want to be awake ... I bet you I between him pissing himself and puking with fear he picks being stunned .......... If I didn't know already I could guess you were an Infantry NCO. You certainly have a way with words socks. I agree with everything you say. Infantry SNCO mate who unfortunately has been to more than his share of funerals orchestrated by these British hating filth .......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 The bottom line in all this debate is that white British born abattoir owners have to jump through countless hoops to please and appease the rules and regulations forced upon them by this British government BUT the fukcing stinking Britain hating sand niggers can do as they fukcing please because it's done under the guise of their religion and anybody in power in this country is to afraid to upset them .... Tell you what walk into a mosque pull a bloke outside and ask the fukcer whether he wants to be stunned before you slit his throat or does he want to be awake ... I bet you I between him pissing himself and puking with fear he picks being stunned .......... If I didn't know already I could guess you were an Infantry NCO. You certainly have a way with words socks. I agree with everything you say. Infantry SNCO mate who unfortunately has been to more than his share of funerals orchestrated by these British hating filth .......... who strangely still want to live here despite that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 The bottom line in all this debate is that white British born abattoir owners have to jump through countless hoops to please and appease the rules and regulations forced upon them by this British government BUT the fukcing stinking Britain hating sand niggers can do as they fukcing please because it's done under the guise of their religion and anybody in power in this country is to afraid to upset them .... Tell you what walk into a mosque pull a bloke outside and ask the fukcer whether he wants to be stunned before you slit his throat or does he want to be awake ... I bet you I between him pissing himself and puking with fear he picks being stunned .......... If I didn't know already I could guess you were an Infantry NCO. You certainly have a way with words socks. I agree with everything you say. Infantry SNCO mate who unfortunately has been to more than his share of funerals orchestrated by these British hating filth .......... who strangely still want to live here despite that You've lost me there ??? ......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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