Chocolate Pat

[paulus 26]

 

 

The name Terrier means a multitude of things and can be split into hundreds of categories.

Genuine working terriers come in all shapes and sizes and should be graded on there work not there looks.

the word terrier means "belonging to the earth" in old medieval Latin or [/size]terrārius of the land, a terrier is a terrier but its the attributes/conformity to a type that characterise each name whether that be a patterdale or a pitbull

Well I seem to have misplaced my Latin dictionary somewhere, so I'll give you that one but like I said before looks mean fuckall unless your showing.

If I had to choose between an ugly c**t or a very smart one with all the correct conformation I'd pick the ugly c**t every time because you can bet your life that smart one hasn't been bread purely on the basis of working ability, somewhere down the line there's some show shite involved.

 

smart or ugly is just in the eye, conformation is what makes the type. a square peg wont fit in a round hole no mater how hard you try to make it fit.

[YOKEL 2,340]

iv'e always been of the opinion, if a dog is able to perform the task for which he was bred, then he is built right, the only standard you need, is that the dogs are physically and mentally capable to see the job thru till the end, no breed clubs or standards required...j.m.o.

Yokel

[paulus 26]

iv'e always been of the opinion, if a dog is able to perform the task for which he was bred, then he is built right, the only standard you need, is that the dogs are physically and mentally capable to see the job thru till the end, no breed clubs or standards required...j.m.o.

Yokel

Then you are breeding to a type and dare i say a standard what's missing from standards is they don't judge on actual working ability as well as conformation to type

[YOKEL 2,340]

lol, yep, i spose your right, but the problem with a lot of conformation breed standards is that they are (often) set by people who have little knowledge of actually working dogs, or indeed the working variants of the breed that they choose, and not only does the working ability suffer, but so does the conformation, they become caricatures of the breed they once was, look at the bulldog, staff etc, they are lacking in more than working ability, their conformation has been altered so much over the yrs that very few actually resemble the original stock, and would be far from capable of performance. same can be said for alot of show bred "running" breeds. i'm rambling, lol. the point i'm trying to make, is I.M.O. i would always breed for performance 1st, from animals that are capable of the task at hand, irrelevant of whether they conform to a written standard, because the very fact that they are capable means they're built right....hope that makes sense....

Yokel.

[paulus 26]

lol, yep, i spose your right, but the problem with a lot of conformation breed standards is that they are (often) set by people who have little knowledge of actually working dogs, or indeed the working variants of the breed that they choose, and not only does the working ability suffer, but so does the conformation, they become caricatures of the breed they once was, look at the bulldog, staff etc, they are lacking in more than working ability, their conformation has been altered so much over the yrs that very few actually resemble the original stock, and would be far from capable of performance. same can be said for alot of show bred "running" breeds. i'm rambling, lol. the point i'm trying to make, is I.M.O. i would always breed for performance 1st, from animals that are capable of the task at hand, irrelevant of whether they conform to a written standard, because the very fact that they are capable means they're built right....hope that makes sense....

Yokel.

i agree but again they have been altered to suit the eye and not for working ability and suitability to do the work they were bred for, im not getting my point across very well here

[TOPPER 1,809]

breed for work and type will follow and you wont go far wrong , working dogs isnt a beauty pagent

[legacy2013 52]

Especially after a good dig!