davey 310 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 When I was a kid my old man and and a few mates took there deer xs lurchers to a greyhound trainers track in wickham Hampshire . After a couple of lads letting there dogs run and me and old man watching with our dogs I convinced my old man to let me give his bitch a run so squeeze her into trap with couple of greyhounds bang they are away but instead of running the track she jumped the rail ran across middle of track jumped a little fence and was stood waiting for rabbit with head by rail . My old man was screaming stop the rabbit which they did all his mates laughing . But what im saying some dogs are very clever she obviously worked it out when she was stood on bank speed is all good but your talking 100th of seconds across dogs bit you can't buy brains 1 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I never knew you had greyhounds socks There's lots about me you don't know Quote Link to post
samba 534 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 there was a lad who used our whippet/ghd to his deerhoundx greyhound x greyhound and one of them used to race and win against greyhounds at askern ano its only flapping but he won his far few Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Dave my greyhounds would on average be 10 lengths faster than a lurcher over 525 yds ......... nice clip that ken Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 what sorts of speed do top greyhounds do over 300/400 yards?? lurcher lads what sorts of speed do you lurchers do over the same distence?? be good if some one as tride thayer lurcher on the track not jest gess work?? coursing lads what would a well bred coursing dog do over that distence?? meny thanks david there has been a few lurchers run in the flapping game my son used to flap his lurcher i bred it was seven eigths greyhound and won the few lurcher races it ran in and was a very very fast lurcher but when running against even the rubbing rags in bottom heat on the flaps it was just very average the only time a lucher will beat a greyhound on the track is when the greyhounds are very very slow ones compared to the average ones Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Have a word with maxhardcore,,,he raced Venus's grandmother a few times on the track,,,she had a second place if my memory is correct ,,,, Her breeding was ,,, her sire was pure grey,,,, and her dam was half saluki 1/4 deer 1/4 grey cheers tomo Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 You got a fast lurcher loyd your wanting to trial? fuk no its like a slug lol 1 Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 A lurcher that is mainly sight hound and throws largely after the greyhound side would have a fair turn of speed but pure greys are wickedly fast and the lurcher would need to really, really take after the greyhound side to compete over 400mts. Thinking of this takes me back to the good old days. Going back into the vague and distant times many years ago their was a flapping track at Huntingdon. On a Sunday morn they help trails and I took along a little bitch that we called whippet as she was so small and slight. If I remember right they were planning some 680 0r 730m or some such and she was a good stayer that would be at the back out of trouble for the first few bends then move through the pack as the other tired so went to trial her in. Off we set early one Sunday morn but alas the roadwork’s down the A14 were shocking and we arrived late. But although the trails had finished the local Afghan/saluki club hired the tack after trialing for racing their dogs. There were allsorts, mainly Afghans and the like but also a smattering of lurchers, whippets and even non sight hounds. I thought oh well I’ll give her a stretch and put her name down for a race, to my eye she looked like a bred down grew. Now if my memory serves me right in her heat there were two Afghans, a Saluki, a Whippet/lurcher type and a Labrador. Well never again! The others were hand slipped and the owners edged forward and across just before the off so when the traps opened she had run between two owners, almost leap the lab then weave through the remaining dogs like they were standing still. By the first bend there were two races and by the second the rest had given up unsighted and heading back. As she completed the circuit it was to meet all the others milling around the straight. They stopped the hare short right in front of her and she hit the bar flipped over injuring her shoulder. She never really got over it and although winning her last couple of races was never right so I retired her a few months later as a pet still only just 4 yrs old. There was much grumbling by me with the hare stopping so short but in truth I knew it was my fault, she was a racer and as such a different class on the track, they were playing, she was racing. There was also much mumbling about my dog and I think if she was fit to run again she would have been refused entry into the next round lol. The moral greyhounds are special specialist! good read cheers Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The lurcher bitch I raced a few times when she was around 15-16 mths old Had a 5th Then a second over the sprint distance She used to sleep in a mile then once running she could move She was 5/8th grey 2/8 saluki 1/8 deerhound Her Sire was Sam The Man He won the Waterloo Cup while still a pup in greyhound terms. Sam had excellent track blood in him Sarah's Bunny his Dam was the last bitch to win the English Derby trap to line. Other Derby Class dogs in his Family were Ron Hardy Master Hardy Fearless Action Other Greyhound blood in the mentioned bitch was Glen Corby Celt and Midland Mist This bitch looked a better example of a Greyhound than most Greyhounds. That much so I nearly had her in Slips at Old Yorkshire Coursing as a bye dog. Till someone my parents knew recognised her so the chance was to great or somebody might of been sin dyed lol On the track she did around a 15-10 over 245m I think it was at the time. But like I say she was leaving 5-10 lengths in the traps easy. We stepped her up to 4 bends in her 3rd race to give her more of a chance once out running but she jumped over the rail into the middle and ran to my dad lol That was the end of her short racing career on the ovals . cheers max Quote Link to post
lurchers4life 103 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Theres a greyhound track in ystrad mynach ceaphilly south wales Quote Link to post
chester 147 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Dave my greyhounds would on average be 10 lengths faster than a lurcher over 525 yds ......... was 10 lengths faster than the second greyhound on the track lol Quote Link to post
dennned 172 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 A lurcher that is mainly sight hound and throws largely after the greyhound side would have a fair turn of speed but pure greys are wickedly fast and the lurcher would need to really, really take after the greyhound side to compete over 400mts. Thinking of this takes me back to the good old days. Going back into the vague and distant times many years ago their was a flapping track at Huntingdon. On a Sunday morn they help trails and I took along a little bitch that we called whippet as she was so small and slight. If I remember right they were planning some 680 0r 730m or some such and she was a good stayer that would be at the back out of trouble for the first few bends then move through the pack as the other tired so went to trial her in. Off we set early one Sunday morn but alas the roadwork’s down the A14 were shocking and we arrived late. But although the trails had finished the local Afghan/saluki club hired the tack after trialing for racing their dogs. There were allsorts, mainly Afghans and the like but also a smattering of lurchers, whippets and even non sight hounds. I thought oh well I’ll give her a stretch and put her name down for a race, to my eye she looked like a bred down grew. Now if my memory serves me right in her heat there were two Afghans, a Saluki, a Whippet/lurcher type and a Labrador. Well never again! The others were hand slipped and the owners edged forward and across just before the off so when the traps opened she had run between two owners, almost leap the lab then weave through the remaining dogs like they were standing still. By the first bend there were two races and by the second the rest had given up unsighted and heading back. As she completed the circuit it was to meet all the others milling around the straight. They stopped the hare short right in front of her and she hit the bar flipped over injuring her shoulder. She never really got over it and although winning her last couple of races was never right so I retired her a few months later as a pet still only just 4 yrs old. There was much grumbling by me with the hare stopping so short but in truth I knew it was my fault, she was a racer and as such a different class on the track, they were playing, she was racing. There was also much mumbling about my dog and I think if she was fit to run again she would have been refused entry into the next round lol. The moral greyhounds are special specialist! yes you do get the odd one that can compete,had one bred by, crock of gold, she was an aeroplane with lurchers , but needed 1000m plus but a greyhound is defferent class to any hybrid, Quote Link to post
dennned 172 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 what sorts of speed do top greyhounds do over 300/400 yards?? lurcher lads what sorts of speed do you lurchers do over the same distence?? be good if some one as tride thayer lurcher on the track not jest gess work?? coursing lads what would a well bred coursing dog do over that distence?? meny thanks david there has been a few lurchers run in the flapping game my son used to flap his lurcher i bred it was seven eigths greyhound and won the few lurcher races it ran in and was a very very fast lurcher but when running against even the rubbing rags in bottom heat on the flaps it was just very average the only time a lucher will beat a greyhound on the track is when the greyhounds are very very slow ones compared to the average ones ite facts theyre just no as fast as purebreds . Quote Link to post
sowhat 1,572 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 One of my sprint bitches in the black jacket at Highgate stadium in 2001/2 over 275 yrds Quote Link to post
samba 534 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 out and gone Geoff Quote Link to post
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